Episode summary: Bryan Whittington was always one who loved to learn, but was never a fan of the classroom setting. He became a foreign exchange student in South America not knowing any Spanish or anything of their culture.
Being immersed right into it, he learned that the best way to learn is just by doing it. He took those lessons on throughout the rest of his life. Working in sales, making those cold calls really do scare many people away, but Bryan knows you just have to do it and you’ll get better.
Guest Name & Bio: Bryan Whittington, the Founder of ebsGrowth & host of The Talent, Sales & Scale Podcast, has a mission to help communities thrive through entrepreneurship. Bryan knows that the intentionality of mindset is foundational to achieving one’s desired outcomes.
Emotional intelligence (EQ), moving out of one’s comfort zone, embracing setbacks as valuable lessons learned & having a continuous self-development loop is the differentiator between those who try verse those who succeed.
EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION
[Nick McGowan]: Hey Bryan, welcome to the show how are you doing man? [Bryan Whittington]: i’m living in the dream thanks for having me nick i really appreciate it [Nick McGowan]: yeah an my pleasure i’m glad to have you on so we’ve known each other [Nick McGowan]: for a couple of months now through sales cast dot co shameless little plug for [Nick McGowan]: those guys [Nick McGowan]: and it’s been great it’s been great being part of sales cast but it was [Nick McGowan]: great being able to connect with you and some other people i’ve had some other [Nick McGowan]: people from from that group that’s been part of the show as well and i [Nick McGowan]: was on your show recently we hadgreat conversation and i’m excited for us to
[Nick McGowan]: get into things here why don’t yougive us a little bit of context tell
[Nick McGowan]: us what you do for a livingand maybe one thing that most people don’t
[Nick McGowan]: know about you that’s kind of oddor bizarre
[Bryan Whittington]: well so yeah i appreciate your havingme on again nick and a little bit
[Bryan Whittington]: about me so i’m a founder ofa company called b s growth and founded
[Bryan Whittington]: that back in twenty nineteen really gotstarted perfect year right twenty twenty for the
[Bryan Whittington]: pandemic and all we really do isfocusing on sales effectiveness so that’s that’s my
[Bryan Whittington]: day job insane we have six kidsthat i’m i’m trying to provide for so
[Bryan Whittington]: one weird [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: thing about me or maybe [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: that most don’t know is spent ayear down in south america as an exchange
[Bryan Whittington]: student and that was probably one ofthem s pivotal pivotal times in my life
[Bryan Whittington]: to really [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: open up my eyes for what wasout there and really set me on a
[Bryan Whittington]: path to where i am today ibelieve
[Nick McGowan]: that’s awesome so what was that likeand how did you get to south america
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah so it’s [Nick McGowan]: a [Bryan Whittington]: funny story i was never [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: a good student [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: i loved to learn but i wasnever a good student that stereo typical academic
[Bryan Whittington]: career path is not me right idon’t sit down on m d d i
[Bryan Whittington]: have [Nick McGowan]: uh [Bryan Whittington]: a standing desk [Nick McGowan]: uh [Bryan Whittington]: i don’t remember the last time isat down during work hours and that doesn’t
[Bryan Whittington]: really equate and it’s not effective inschool so whenever i went into
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: my spanish class [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: there was a little post card andit said hey fill it out if you’d
[Bryan Whittington]: like to go and be an exchangestudent through rotary club something like that this
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: will never happen so i filled thedarn thing out and lone behold they chose
[Bryan Whittington]: me through a couple of different interviewsthey were insane enough to choose me so
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: i went down to south america andended up staying with a family that had
[Bryan Whittington]: um you know five or six differentcompanies that they were running and i
[Nick McGowan]: is [Bryan Whittington]: never knew that right where i grewup my dad was a truck driver right
[Bryan Whittington]: i told him i was going togo to school and he’s like why in
[Bryan Whittington]: the world would you do that justwhere we’re
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: living and my mother was in retailsales all of her life learned a ton
[Bryan Whittington]: of work ethic from them but thatwas just i didn’t know what else was
[Bryan Whittington]: out there so that [Nick McGowan]: sure [Bryan Whittington]: was probably the biggest eye opener forme
[Nick McGowan]: and what part of the country youoriginally from
[Bryan Whittington]: so i’m from pittsburgh pennsylvania [Nick McGowan]: yeah now i remember starting off yourpodcast episode talking about eagles and stealers and
[Nick McGowan]: throwing colors basically at each other blackand gold and green and all of that
[Nick McGowan]: it’s got to be interesting going frompittsburgh to south america
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: and having a whole different whole differentvibe down there what was that like when
[Nick McGowan]: you were a kid [Bryan Whittington]: so i was eighteen i had noidea
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: what i was doing right and whenever [Nick McGowan]: most a [Bryan Whittington]: i [Nick McGowan]: team [Bryan Whittington]: went [Nick McGowan]: year old stout [Bryan Whittington]: and so whenever i went down therewas kind of funny all of these other
[Bryan Whittington]: students that were going down they hadplanned that they you know this was what
[Bryan Whittington]: they really wanted to do it forme it was a whim
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: i had a for an exchangent studentthat lived across the read from me and
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: i thought that would be kind ofcool i realized on the airplane down whenever
[Bryan Whittington]: they were all practicing spanish i didn’teven know how to ask where the bathroom
[Bryan Whittington]: was so whenever i got down [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: there i to learn how to beself sufficient very quickly because
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: i couldn’t understand a thing i couldn’tspeak anything but that really allowed me a
[Bryan Whittington]: pathway to learning to really understand thatit doesn’t matter the situation you just work
[Bryan Whittington]: through it you can dwell [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: on it suck your thumb about itwhere you can just work on it and
[Bryan Whittington]: it took me three months to theyunderstand virtually everything six months to where i
[Bryan Whittington]: was really speaking well and by thetime i was leaving people didn’t even realize
[Bryan Whittington]: i was from the states they thoughti was from europe that my accent was
[Bryan Whittington]: good enough that they thought wow thisguys even american
[Nick McGowan]: wow that’s that’s a testament to immersionbecause
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: if you were dumped in a spotand you have to figure that stuff out
[Nick McGowan]: that’s vastly different than just being dumpedin a class room and being like her
[Nick McGowan]: these stupid words this is what thisstupid word means out of context or this
[Nick McGowan]: silly little sentence the fact that youwent through and you were immersed in it
[Nick McGowan]: i’ve talked to different people that havedone that and i’ve done some traveling where
[Nick McGowan]: i’ve gone to like russia a coupleof times for different different trips for the
[Nick McGowan]: church as i was at and alland some people told me the same thing
[Nick McGowan]: they’re like you want to freshen upon the words but at the same time
[Nick McGowan]: you’re going to get over there andbe like i don’t know what you’re talking
[Nick McGowan]: about explain it to me and thenyou’ll get it because you feel like an
[Nick McGowan]: idiot you’re like i don’t understan anduh but that’s a that’s a ton of
[Nick McGowan]: immersion so you’ve got kids now thatare some of them older like in high
[Nick McGowan]: school [Bryan Whittington]: we have a huge range [Nick McGowan]: okay [Bryan Whittington]: so before i go [Nick McGowan]: okay [Bryan Whittington]: off that just one one point oftopic to come back to that immersion piece
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: relates to everything that you’re doing sono matter
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: what you do whether i was flyingair and you are immersed in doing that
[Bryan Whittington]: or entrepreneurship you can only study somuch that immersion piece that actual execution at
[Bryan Whittington]: least the way i learn [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: yeah you can look in the bookbut until you’re actually doing it it doesn’t
[Bryan Whittington]: count but to answer your question wehave six kids that range from seven all
[Bryan Whittington]: the way up to [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: to eighteen [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: we’re in saying we do home schoolingright so our oldest daughter not
[Nick McGowan]: i [Bryan Whittington]: only is she eighteen senior in highschool just graduated but now she’s going into
[Bryan Whittington]: university as a junior because she wasdol
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: enrolment so [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: yeah we’re always going [Nick McGowan]: i bet man i know there’ve beena couple of conversations we’ve had just through
[Nick McGowan]: like linked in or whatever and icould just tell them like you could you’re
[Nick McGowan]: like i’m running from place to placeto place place place and i hope i
[Nick McGowan]: get to sleep tonight sort of deal [Bryan Whittington]: oh [Nick McGowan]: um i do want to go backto the emerson because i do think that’s
[Nick McGowan]: something we can really tackle a bitbecause look both of us are in and
[Nick McGowan]: we’ve been in sales for a longtime and when you’re on call with a
[Nick McGowan]: prospect you can’t really just hang upthe phone and run away i mean you
[Nick McGowan]: can but that’s not going to getanywhere so being immersed in that like i
[Nick McGowan]: think back to the early days ofsales where they were like here’s the script
[Nick McGowan]: go talk to these p and dothese things i think there’s a way to
[Nick McGowan]: go about it so when you talkto people in sales people or people that
[Nick McGowan]: are just getting into a career nowin the regards to immersing themselves what sort
[Nick McGowan]: of advice would you give them todo that
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah so don’t dwell on what youdon’t know because
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: even if it’s your first day you’regoing to know more than a lot of
[Bryan Whittington]: people out there so just get intoit and learn as you and people are
[Bryan Whittington]: usually pretty helpful so let’s [Nick McGowan]: h [Bryan Whittington]: be sales specific [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: if somebody’s they won [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: on a on a in a salescareer and they’re calling up and they’re nervous
[Bryan Whittington]: you can actually say hey listen thismy first day i’m a little bit nervous
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: you know here’s why i’m calling andyou’re going to fly that people are pretty
[Bryan Whittington]: receptive to that funny story is idid ten years as sales training coaching salting
[Bryan Whittington]: and there’s probably five or six timesthat this happened we would do live cold
[Bryan Whittington]: calls where i would call on behalfof the client to show somebody how to
[Bryan Whittington]: do it and [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: i never called on them i don’tsell what they did right but whenever i
[Bryan Whittington]: had [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: the person who was years in thein the role and supposed that ly knew
[Bryan Whittington]: what was doing because they were infront of their peers one and two trying
[Bryan Whittington]: to do it a little bit differentlyat least five or six times whenever this
[Bryan Whittington]: happened they called up they call upnick and they say click and just hang
[Bryan Whittington]: up they didn’t say a word theydidn’t do anything as soon as that other
[Bryan Whittington]: person on the [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: other line said hello they hung [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: up so all of that to saydon’t be tied to the process not the
[Bryan Whittington]: all come if you’re worried [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: about messing up guess what you willso don’t hang on so tightly um another
[Bryan Whittington]: example of that is whenever i wasflying airplanes ou know hang on so tightly
[Bryan Whittington]: and the flight instructor say hey puta pencil between the yoke in your hand
[Bryan Whittington]: that way if [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: you start to squeeze too tightly willhurt same thing and everything that we do
[Bryan Whittington]: if you hang on too tightly you’renot going to be as agile to be
[Bryan Whittington]: able to adapt to that situation andyou’re going to be thinking about everything that
[Bryan Whittington]: you should be doing or shouldn’t bedoin or what you should say or how
[Bryan Whittington]: to overcome what they’re suggesting and you’regoing to miss all the ques just really
[Bryan Whittington]: be human in the whole [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: entire tone [Nick McGowan]: a lot of people especially sales peopleforget that they are who they are they
[Nick McGowan]: jump on a call and i thinkyou and i have joked about this before
[Nick McGowan]: where they’re like hey so and sohello this is jimmy bob from so and
[Nick McGowan]: so company you’re like are you kiddingme jenny
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: like that’s not you that’s [Bryan Whittington]: yep [Nick McGowan]: wrong that’s weird um and i dothink that a lot of people will get
[Nick McGowan]: to that point where the they kindof hug themselves up in all situations be
[Nick McGowan]: at a sales call be it togo into an interview or to have it
[Nick McGowan]: conversation with somebody some people think it’sjust a hard time of getting out of
[Nick McGowan]: their house being like oh i haveto go be around people and we create
[Nick McGowan]: all this ship in our head soit’s truly about managing your mindset at that
[Nick McGowan]: point so being able to just stepinto it i had a conversation with somebody
[Nick McGowan]: recently where they were going through thispotentially scary thing with a client it was
[Nick McGowan]: a big deal and i was likelook just get in there and have the
[Nick McGowan]: conversation coach along and after the callhe was like man so much easier than
[Nick McGowan]: i thought it was going to be [Bryan Whittington]: oh [Nick McGowan]: again did they bite your head offno were
[Bryan Whittington]: ah [Nick McGowan]: they a big hairy scary monster nodid they buy yeah i’m like look at
[Nick McGowan]: that he was like i don’t reallyknow what i was afraid of i was
[Nick McGowan]: like you dude you were afraid ofyou because you create all this it in
[Nick McGowan]: your head but [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: we all do that [Bryan Whittington]: and there’s two tactics [Nick McGowan]: my [Bryan Whittington]: that you can can go in thereone is an acrostic called fear right false
[Bryan Whittington]: evidence appearing real and we do thatto
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: ourselves all the time we’re so fearfulthat we believe bats things are going to
[Bryan Whittington]: happen and the other thing is especiallyif you’re in sales don’t have it to
[Bryan Whittington]: begin with so you can’t lose itthere is zero pressure
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: so just go in and have thatconversation but it goes to that mind set
[Bryan Whittington]: you know oftentimes people like you haven’tchanged a bit that’s the biggest insult to
[Bryan Whittington]: me because if you haven’t gotten outof your comfort zone you’re not growing and
[Bryan Whittington]: if you’re [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: not scaring yourself every day if you’renot messing up you’re not going to grow
[Bryan Whittington]: whatsoever so getting over that fear offailure or fear of not being perfect because
[Bryan Whittington]: guess what no one is [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: that’s the biggest pediment to people’s successis there stuck in that fear they’re stuck
[Bryan Whittington]: in that i need to be perfecti need to live up to somebody else’s
[Bryan Whittington]: idea of what success is and noneof that or success is what you define
[Bryan Whittington]: it as so live that out isreally
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: my encouragement to people [Nick McGowan]: i know it’s a bit difficult withsocial media because you open
[Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: that up whatever [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: that app is your ig facebook godtik tok any of it you open it
[Nick McGowan]: up [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: and you’re just in a hole andthese things are being forced into your face
[Nick McGowan]: of these people are doing these thingsthese people do these things as great as
[Nick McGowan]: they’re portraying them to be but it’sreally all kind of a lie and you’re
[Nick McGowan]: not seeing all the work that’s behindit so i find that stuff interesting where
[Nick McGowan]: people get really upset with a situationand it’s really them getting said about themselves
[Nick McGowan]: so do you kind of coach somepeople through that sort of stuff i see
[Nick McGowan]: kind of smirking a little bit especiallyas i said social media you’re like yeah
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah well the reason i’m sparking [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: on it is years ago it wasprobably two thousand for two thousand five have
[Bryan Whittington]: you ever read the book by timferris called the four hour work week
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: okay do you remember that suggestion thathe gives about not listening to the news
[Bryan Whittington]: not watching the news [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: okay well i go in and outof that and i’ve been
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: i was watching the news a lottrying to stay up on what’s going on
[Bryan Whittington]: with the economy and you know goingthrough a bunch of different battles and pivots
[Bryan Whittington]: and this and that you talk topeople you’re on linked in i’m on linked
[Bryan Whittington]: in all the time i don’t doany other social media except for linked in
[Bryan Whittington]: because i’m smiling because people put onthis facade and they pretend to be happy
[Bryan Whittington]: they pretend all of these things andi think you are the one that pointed
[Bryan Whittington]: out [Nick McGowan]: ah [Bryan Whittington]: whatever you say you know you seethese people posting or doing a cela or
[Bryan Whittington]: something like that you’re like ore youokay
[Nick McGowan]: are you okay [Bryan Whittington]: because yeah why else are you [Nick McGowan]: ye [Bryan Whittington]: going to do other than draw attentionto yourself so
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: my real encouragement to you is don’tfollow that there’s been countless entrepenours that you
[Bryan Whittington]: know literally say we’re doing amazing everythingright and then two weeks later they’re shutting
[Bryan Whittington]: down their offices everything is going youknow they’re in bankruptcy because
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: they put on this facade now i’mnot saying go out and complain right
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: is the last thing that you wantto
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: do however you do want to berealistic if things are rough that’s where you
[Bryan Whittington]: go hey listen things are rough butthen have that optimism that positive expectation of
[Bryan Whittington]: winning if you’re going through hell thelast thing that you want to do is
[Bryan Whittington]: stop [Nick McGowan]: stop [Bryan Whittington]: right keep goin and through it butbe realistic identify what your challenges are identify
[Bryan Whittington]: the real things that you’re going todo to address those challenges no matter how
[Bryan Whittington]: scary they are no matter how badthings seem just systematically start to attack them
[Bryan Whittington]: and then slowly but surely you’ll you’llbe able to pull yourself out of it
[Bryan Whittington]: i mean there’s been couple of timesone time nick i had a guy partnered
[Bryan Whittington]: with i lost two hundred and fiftythousand dollars to this guy during two thousand
[Bryan Whittington]: eight two thousand nine the economic meltdown and i was in real estate i
[Bryan Whittington]: had lost my flying career during thehealth health reasons two years prior to that
[Bryan Whittington]: i mean i was getting my asskicked time and time again and so could
[Bryan Whittington]: have given up on everything i meani was staring bankruptcy down i was literally
[Bryan Whittington]: minutes away from filing bankruptcy but finallylisten to my wife and she why don’t
[Bryan Whittington]: we look at one other alternative andthankfully we were able to avoid that and
[Bryan Whittington]: build ourselves out of it and tearourselves out of that but those struggles the
[Bryan Whittington]: more pressure you have m that’s thestrength that you get those are things that
[Bryan Whittington]: no one else can take away fromyou and if you bear yourself under that
[Bryan Whittington]: strength a good mentor mind said therenick he said listen the only thing that
[Bryan Whittington]: success leads to is failure however ifyou pursue excellence you can be excellent on
[Bryan Whittington]: the ride up and you can beexcellent on the ride down so
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: always pursue excellence and when you failand you will that degree of excellence the
[Bryan Whittington]: amount of excellence that you’re living outis how quickly you can rebound from that
[Bryan Whittington]: failure and that’s the mindset that ialways have is okay i’m not going no
[Bryan Whittington]: be scared i’m going to go anddo this and if and when i fail
[Bryan Whittington]: i’m gonna you know lessons learned igot the scars from it but those lessons
[Bryan Whittington]: learned are what allow us to movefaster and better n even more as we
[Bryan Whittington]: go on if we don’t give up [Nick McGowan]: absolutely and you bring up a lotof great points i want to touch on
[Nick McGowan]: the social media side of it toobecause i think that’s a platform that a
[Nick McGowan]: lot of people will use to justtalk about what they think is a good
[Nick McGowan]: thing but there [Bryan Whittington]: hm [Nick McGowan]: are also the types of people whereif you just allowed them to they would
[Nick McGowan]: just naturally complain constantly because [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: that’s just how the people are imean if you think it’s a preto principle
[Nick McGowan]: we got the twenty rule twenty percentof people aren’t going to do that and
[Nick McGowan]: they’ll probably be like how we arewhere hey i’m going through a tough spot
[Nick McGowan]: right now but this is what i’mdoing what i’m working through et cetera it’s
[Nick McGowan]: it’s interesting when you think of balanceand how people can or cannot balance themselves
[Nick McGowan]: of i’m in pain right now butis this a m problem is this a
[Nick McGowan]: something that happened to me that issomething i need to work through in my
[Nick McGowan]: head how do i get this stuffout how do i get help where it
[Nick McGowan]: can just be so easy especially withnot just social media but people sitting behind
[Nick McGowan]: a computer can be easy for [Bryan Whittington]: oh [Nick McGowan]: them to just spout out ship andjust move along and not actually do anything
[Nick McGowan]: with it so [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: what you’re talking about with being ableto actually systematically go through that i’d like
[Nick McGowan]: to play devil’s advocate on the showbecause i know there’s some asshole that’s listening
[Nick McGowan]: to the show that’s like [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: fun you guys i’ve tried [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: that ship for [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: it’s not really going to work wellyou know i appreciate you listen to the
[Nick McGowan]: show but fuck you as well becauserealistically you’ve got to systematically go through this
[Nick McGowan]: stuff but i think the breakdown isthat people look at it and think that
[Nick McGowan]: it all has to get done rightnow instead
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: of taking it day by day byday by day and a lot of people
[Nick McGowan]: want that instant gratification we jump backto instagram or tiktok i talked to somebody
[Nick McGowan]: yesterday it was like i’m not ontiktok but i had to started up for
[Nick McGowan]: the business forty five minutes later iwas like what am i doing get off
[Nick McGowan]: this thing and you’re just reeling throughall of it if you can actually go
[Nick McGowan]: through and you can if you cantake the stuff that you’ve had happened to
[Nick McGowan]: you and figure out how you canwork through it bit by bit what sort
[Nick McGowan]: of advice would you give somebody tobe able to break that down and think
[Nick McGowan]: of that guy or that gal that’slistening to this right now and go look
[Nick McGowan]: we get it but take it incrementally [Bryan Whittington]: so a couple of things me twentyyears ago i would never believe this stuff
[Bryan Whittington]: so bear with me if you thinkthis is a bunch of you know happy
[Bryan Whittington]: touchy feely black magic stuff i [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: get it that was me but letme give
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: you a couple key things one isyour mind set your mind set is so
[Bryan Whittington]: much and the way that you seewe lie to ourselves right whenever you talk
[Bryan Whittington]: to yourself so there was a booki can’t give the author credit but he
[Bryan Whittington]: says wrote a book the things thatwe say to ourselves and the joke is
[Bryan Whittington]: always hey do you talk to yourselfraise your hand in the crowd right s
[Bryan Whittington]: people that [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: aren’t raising their hands like am italking to myself we all do it and
[Bryan Whittington]: unfortunately [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: whenever you’re talking to yourself you’re talkingto yourself ten times faster than what you
[Bryan Whittington]: talk in person so in persons abouta hundred word a minute but when you
[Bryan Whittington]: talk to yourself it’s eight hundred athousand words a minute and eighty percent of
[Bryan Whittington]: that is negative so if you’re goingto lie to yourself with all this negative
[Bryan Whittington]: and negativity you might as well lieto yours elf about who you’re looking to
[Bryan Whittington]: become so in order to overcome thatidentify one and this is where most people
[Bryan Whittington]: screw up they don’t identify who they’relooking to become they
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: very easily identify all their faults theyvery easily identify all the things that they
[Bryan Whittington]: don’t have but it’s not you’re nota human doing you’re a human being
[Nick McGowan]: p [Bryan Whittington]: you’re not a human having you’re ahuman being so who are you looking to
[Bryan Whittington]: be who are you looking to becomeidentify that then without pauline glasses and without
[Bryan Whittington]: beating yourself up identify those short fallsthose areas where you need to improve and
[Bryan Whittington]: that’s where [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: you’re going to want to systematically putin there what are you going to do
[Bryan Whittington]: to improve those areas and then through [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: a couple of different ways o whetheryour journal identify a couple of things one
[Bryan Whittington]: ten things that you’re [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: grateful every single day what are yougrateful for that tude of gratitude drives out
[Bryan Whittington]: that negativity so much and whenever you’refeeling yourself get negative remind yourself pull out
[Bryan Whittington]: that list what are all other thingsthat i’m grateful for today and then second
[Bryan Whittington]: thing is who are you those thoseidentifyers so there was a guy by the
[Bryan Whittington]: name of len penton costa he taughtme this right he always said i seek
[Bryan Whittington]: first to understand because you get somebodythat just attacks you what’s going on in
[Bryan Whittington]: their life if [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: i seek first to understand and thenthe second thing you taught me i never
[Bryan Whittington]: take anything personally if i seek tounderstand what what they’re going through and i
[Bryan Whittington]: don’t allow what they’re saying or doingto affect me personally that’s ninety per cent
[Bryan Whittington]: of the battle and then if [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: i can take that through an attitude [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: of gratitude that gets me over somuch and then especially if i have that
[Bryan Whittington]: systematic plan to improve the areas ofweaknesses all of those things will allow you
[Bryan Whittington]: to get you get you to wherewant to be it’s not overnight it’s a
[Bryan Whittington]: constant improvement and look back to [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: where you were and you’ll see howfar you’ve come but if you never look
[Bryan Whittington]: back to see how far you’ve comeand only how far you still need to
[Bryan Whittington]: that’s where we can start to getnegative
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: and start to want to give upso those couple of areas i think could
[Bryan Whittington]: really help people to get through allof their struggles and frustration
[Nick McGowan]: and that’s a great point about thenegative self talk you’re constantly talking to yourself
[Nick McGowan]: you know i know [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: i am i’m constantly talking with menick and another nick like there’s all these
[Nick McGowan]: conversations that are going on and sometimesthose guys are assholes i literally had a
[Nick McGowan]: conversation earlier where my negative self talkcame up like out of nowhere and i
[Nick McGowan]: was like you need to sit yourass down and step away from me everything
[Nick McGowan]: was all right but being able tohave that strength to be able to do
[Nick McGowan]: that takes years to be able toget to that point i’d like for you
[Nick McGowan]: to be able to break down whatyou just said but put it in a
[Nick McGowan]: simple capital for sales people because they’mnot being scared lona to just roll off
[Nick McGowan]: their back and be like hey iwant to help you don’t want moving along
[Nick McGowan]: so what does that look like fromyou if you think of that simple sales
[Nick McGowan]: person and how they can go aboutit
[Bryan Whittington]: so to one is the saying soit’s s w s w s w so
[Bryan Whittington]: it’s some will some wont somewhat [Nick McGowan]: what [Bryan Whittington]: next if you can keep that refrainas you’re going through you know some will
[Bryan Whittington]: some won’t so what next that’s onepiece the other piece is an acrostic that
[Bryan Whittington]: we call biggles um so spell outthe word beggles but with two s and
[Bryan Whittington]: so you identify in the you dothis in the morning or the night before
[Bryan Whittington]: you identify what are the behaviors thati’m going to do tomorrow or today and
[Bryan Whittington]: you identify all the things that you’regoin to accomplish then you go to he
[Bryan Whittington]: what is your what are those affirmationsthat you’re going to do and i didn’t
[Bryan Whittington]: identify ten things of who you’re lookingto become first person present tense you know
[Bryan Whittington]: you know one mentor mind he alwayssaid i’m a heat seeking missal for pain
[Bryan Whittington]: budget and decision right for [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: his sales piece [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: i never take anything personally i’m bettertoday than i was yesterday so
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: those different affirmations whatever those are foryou but have those so that’s a g
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: is your goals always keep those goalsthat’s your internal motivation what are you the
[Bryan Whittington]: go that you’re seeking and how areyou doing against those goals then g your
[Bryan Whittington]: areas of gratitude and going to suggestten then e this is this non polyanic
[Bryan Whittington]: non you know rose colored glass isevaluate how are you doing today don’t beat
[Bryan Whittington]: yourself up but evaluate how am idoing against my goals how am i doing
[Bryan Whittington]: against my my behaviour that i wassupposed to do so that’s evaluate than l
[Bryan Whittington]: what are the lessons learned from thoselessons you can improve and then lastly s
[Bryan Whittington]: ended on a positive what were mysuccesses today so some wills some won’t so
[Bryan Whittington]: what next for that mind set andthen beggs from that acrostic those two tools
[Bryan Whittington]: can [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: help whether you’re in sales or anythingto keep moving
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: forward [Nick McGowan]: yeah just in life in general iknow that there’s certain people that hear that
[Nick McGowan]: sort of stuff and they go that’scool i don’t want extra work i don’t
[Nick McGowan]: want to do [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: extra things at the same time lookif your leg was broken your arms broken
[Nick McGowan]: you’re going to go do what youneed to do to fix it so it’s
[Nick McGowan]: a matter of prioritizing that but ifwe break it down for the people that
[Nick McGowan]: what’s one thing that you would suggestout of all that that’s kind of the
[Nick McGowan]: crux to it or at least theplace to start
[Bryan Whittington]: know who you’re looking to become [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: you don’t know who you’re looking tobecome and why nothing else matters and if
[Bryan Whittington]: you choose [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: not to do it that’s fine butdon’t complain about your current circumstances
[Nick McGowan]: m hm [Bryan Whittington]: you don’t like what you have listenyou’re not going to like this because this
[Bryan Whittington]: is not this is not what mostpeople want to hear if you don’t like
[Bryan Whittington]: what you have or if you don’tlike who you are you only have you
[Bryan Whittington]: in the mirror to to blame becauseif you played victim
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: well i can’t do anything about itwhereas
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: if you take responsibility now you havecontrol now you can do something about it
[Bryan Whittington]: so i’d really encourage you never playvictim because then you can’t change and you
[Bryan Whittington]: you have that victim mindset instead nomatter what even if you get mugged walking
[Bryan Whittington]: down the street identify what role youhad in it you know what i should
[Bryan Whittington]: have known better than to walk throughthat neighborhood at two a m
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: by myself right identify what areas ofcontrol you had so you don’t do it
[Bryan Whittington]: again so that would be my biggestncouragement for you
[Nick McGowan]: that’s a good one man and looki know that for the most part we
[Nick McGowan]: say on this show and what’s recordedgoes out to the rest of the world
[Nick McGowan]: but as you’re saying that something poppedinto my mind i saw something earlier today
[Nick McGowan]: on social media about some pastor thatwas wearing a million dollars worth of jewelry
[Nick McGowan]: and was robbed mid service [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: his million dollars [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: worth the jewelry on him my initial [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: question was what the fuck why wouldyou have that much jewelry on you no
[Nick McGowan]: matter [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: where you are what is what isyour deal so king about that sort of
[Nick McGowan]: stuff like kind of i don’t wantto say he asked for it but he
[Nick McGowan]: set himself up to be in thatspot where somebody’s going to potentially rob you
[Nick McGowan]: so even being mindful of your ownspace of like what do you bringing to
[Nick McGowan]: the to the space that you’re inwhat sort of energy you bring in what
[Nick McGowan]: is it that you have that you’rebringing into something if it gets a big
[Nick McGowan]: thing like some people will kind ofgo into a situation and they they almost
[Nick McGowan]: allow their ego to just move themthrough it in that ego then sometimes bite
[Nick McGowan]: you on the ass and million dollarsjory is stolen right off your body
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah well be curious to pastor likethat he’s probably a namen claimant kind of
[Bryan Whittington]: guy so i’d be curious as toyou know how he’s going to work around
[Bryan Whittington]: that one [Nick McGowan]: maybe i don’t know we all gotto talk to somebody at the end of
[Nick McGowan]: end of life the pearly gates andi’d like to be a wall flower for
[Nick McGowan]: that conversation [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: the [Bryan Whittington]: exactly [Nick McGowan]: talk about peter gonna let it differentstory well men appreciate what we’ve gotten to
[Nick McGowan]: so far let’s actually take a littlebit of a step back are there any
[Nick McGowan]: major moments throughout the course of timein your life because you’ve hinted at a
[Nick McGowan]: couple of them that were kind ofpivotal moments for you
[Bryan Whittington]: so i’d say one is whenever iwas just out of high school as an
[Bryan Whittington]: exchange student learning to be self sufficientand
[Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: figure things out on my own thenwhenever i went to pilot training
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: i was told by a guy mshoemaker was my sixth grade math teacher and
[Bryan Whittington]: he always said he why can’t yoube more like your sister and believe that
[Bryan Whittington]: and what i was able to doin going through military flight training because it’s
[Bryan Whittington]: a pretty exclusive club to be inas as a
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: military pilot that really gave me confidencethat wait a second maybe i’m i’m smart
[Bryan Whittington]: enough that mer [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: shoemaker was wrong so that was anotherkey pipfital moment and then whenever i lost
[Bryan Whittington]: my career my flying career because ihad so much of my age and you
[Bryan Whittington]: talked about it earlier couched in whati did rather than who i was as
[Bryan Whittington]: a pilot so [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: you know it’s kind of funny howdo you know that a person is a
[Bryan Whittington]: doctor how do you know what personis a pilot or you know somebody who
[Bryan Whittington]: rides rides a road bike they alwaystell you right their
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: ego and their personality so wrapped upin it and that’s not who you are
[Bryan Whittington]: so what you do is who youare that was another key piece and then
[Bryan Whittington]: whenever that person took me to thetune of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: that was another key piece right thatwas a quarter million dollars and that we’re
[Bryan Whittington]: still getting out from under that butif you think about it that could have
[Bryan Whittington]: eliminated most people a lot of peopleyou know
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: they would go to drugs or alcoholor even commit suicide over that but we
[Bryan Whittington]: battled way through that and then havingdown turns in the economy with business as
[Bryan Whittington]: you’re starting off and all the pivotsthrough that so all of those key pieces
[Bryan Whittington]: nick were all i think pivotal momentswhere when faced with challenge when faced with
[Bryan Whittington]: possible defeat you continue on or doyou do you give up and i think
[Bryan Whittington]: those key pivotal moments were all timeswhere i decided to move on with
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: one exception where i had to takea strategic retreat in a pause then i
[Bryan Whittington]: got back into it as soon asi could so now when to pause if
[Bryan Whittington]: it’s a strategic applause but never giveup
[Nick McGowan]: what did that look like that strategicpause
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah the strategic pause was you knowi had a wife and three kids at
[Bryan Whittington]: that point and i had to provideright that was my
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: responsibility and so i wasn’t able toprovide in the down turn in two thousand
[Bryan Whittington]: nine in real estate to take toolong so i had to take a w
[Bryan Whittington]: to job but that w two jobi realized this was not at all what
[Bryan Whittington]: i wanted to do i could nothandle that corporate life it just was energy
[Bryan Whittington]: life sucking so as soon as iwas able to i got back into it
[Bryan Whittington]: so i left a secure w tojob and i went to a commission only
[Bryan Whittington]: an independent contract or whenever i hadthat immense um mountain of debt looming over
[Bryan Whittington]: me where there wasn’t any security blanketand i just went forward and made it
[Bryan Whittington]: happen so that’s really where i thinkif you want something badly enough you’ll just
[Bryan Whittington]: make it happen if you know whyyou want it
[Nick McGowan]: that’s a great point you had fourwise your wife and three kids that are
[Nick McGowan]: behind you saying we need you togo do this thing but talk to us
[Nick McGowan]: a bit about your mindsetspecifically going throughthe pilot whole situation and growing into becoming
[Nick McGowan]: that person experiencing that and then beingtaken away i almost think of it as
[Nick McGowan]: like an athlete that breaks their legsand can’t get into the n f l
[Nick McGowan]: or something so how did you manageyour mindset throughout that time
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah that was that was hard becausenot only did i lose who i was
[Bryan Whittington]: my identity as a pilot and whati had been working for that was ten
[Bryan Whittington]: years of really hard work you knowi paid civilian wise to be able to
[Bryan Whittington]: go and become a pilot then iended up in the military as a pilot
[Bryan Whittington]: so that was a decade of mylife of learning how to be a good
[Bryan Whittington]: pilot right so that was i wasgrounded in that and that in that identity
[Bryan Whittington]: and whenever that got washed away andi had the health issues on top of
[Bryan Whittington]: it i mean every single day witha migraine or vertico
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: you cannot function at your highest andbest and there is always a mental cloud
[Bryan Whittington]: that you had to go through andso it was just a matter of hey
[Bryan Whittington]: am am i going to dwell onthis in what as me or am i
[Bryan Whittington]: just going to deal with it andhave
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: the best life that i can possiblyhave and that’s what i’ve chosen to do
[Bryan Whittington]: and it’s it’s a choice you have [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: to decide what do you want andthat’s really it i’d love to say it
[Bryan Whittington]: was something other than that but it’sreally a choice and it’s a daily choice
[Bryan Whittington]: and sometimes especially whenever you’re going throughthe thick of it and you’re really in
[Bryan Whittington]: pain or you’re really down you knowoh listen how are you going to choose
[Bryan Whittington]: to to to interpret what’s going onaround you right
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: so a case in point if ihad a great evening with my wife and
[Bryan Whittington]: the next morning i spilled my cupcup of cup of coffee i’m not going
[Bryan Whittington]: to but i’m like yeh that’s thingslet me clean it up i’m good to
[Bryan Whittington]: go whereas if i’m miserable and frustrateand had a bad evening and that same
[Bryan Whittington]: thing happens i’m like i might [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: as well talk in roll i’m goingto tuck my covers back and
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: roll back over in bed same circumstancebut how i chose to react was that
[Bryan Whittington]: a choice and so [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: it really comes down to the choicethat you choose
[Nick McGowan]: good call and there’s kind of choicestacking in a sense as you continue to
[Nick McGowan]: make those choices and you stack uponand stack upon and stck upon that stuff
[Nick McGowan]: gets easier so think about it eventhe way you are right now i think
[Nick McGowan]: if you and your wife had arough evening hopefully tonight’s not a bad one
[Nick McGowan]: for you guys [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: but tomorrow [Bryan Whittington]: exactly [Nick McGowan]: morning if you spilled your coffee you’dprobably still be like damn spill coffee be
[Nick McGowan]: upset just that you don’t have thatcoffee in front of you right now and
[Nick McGowan]: then you just go get another oneand you’re moving along because of the decisions
[Nick McGowan]: you’ve made over the course of timei know there are some people and i’m
[Nick McGowan]: not sure if they’re part of thisaudience but people in the audience know people
[Nick McGowan]: that are like this some of themare family members fuck you might be married
[Nick McGowan]: to this person [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: but some of those people [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: just prepare you wait that and continueto perpetuate that we is the people that
[Nick McGowan]: want to get away from that needto be able to look at a different
[Nick McGowan]: way and kind of take yourself outof that situation but for yourself Bryan when
[Nick McGowan]: you go through your daily work whatdid your daily work look like to make
[Nick McGowan]: sure that you conti you to makethose wise choices
[Bryan Whittington]: well it’s exactly so i’m not tellingyou anything that i’m not doing right i’m
[Bryan Whittington]: not taking this from a hey iread this once
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: i’ve completely and i just again i’vecompletely given up news i was getting down
[Bryan Whittington]: into more negativity than i wanted andso i gave up all news i left
[Bryan Whittington]: social media probably back in an aroundtwenty sixteen i left left social media that
[Bryan Whittington]: just nothing but a time suck igave up you know we were joking around
[Bryan Whittington]: with sports teams before i used tolove football avid football plan fan i gave
[Bryan Whittington]: that up i mean the team wouldlose and i would take it personally i
[Bryan Whittington]: don’t have anything [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: invested so anything that is not goingto allow me to provide better for my
[Bryan Whittington]: family provide better for my clients becomea better version of who i’m looking to
[Bryan Whittington]: become i’ve given that a lot andso i’ve i’ve done all of those things
[Bryan Whittington]: i’ve excited those and in place i’veput in extra study i do the beagles
[Bryan Whittington]: acrostic that i’ve told you about atthe end of every single day identify what
[Bryan Whittington]: i’m going to do the next dayand then i attack that through a systematic
[Bryan Whittington]: i have my calendar completely time blockedand then i i identify how well did
[Bryan Whittington]: i do in my time block todayi was ninety percent yesterday i was eighty
[Bryan Whittington]: six percent but in that ninety percent today i could probably say i was
[Bryan Whittington]: really a hundred because those time isaid i didn’t execute exactly what it is
[Bryan Whittington]: what i was doing allying to thatit was just a little bit more thinking
[Bryan Whittington]: and planning than that [Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: tactical execution so i track everything tomake sure or that i’m going along to
[Bryan Whittington]: achieve the goals that i want [Nick McGowan]: awesome man and i know it maysound like a lot of work people that
[Nick McGowan]: are listening that don’t actively do itonce you actually start moving on it like
[Nick McGowan]: i think of journaling a lot ofpeople really don’t want a journal i fought
[Nick McGowan]: against journaling for years and years andyears
[Bryan Whittington]: i [Nick McGowan]: that [Bryan Whittington]: hate [Nick McGowan]: would [Bryan Whittington]: journalist [Nick McGowan]: i did as well but if you [Bryan Whittington]: uh [Nick McGowan]: do it in the right way youyou do it right for yourself i used
[Nick McGowan]: to think oh my god i needto write this giant thesis of every single
[Nick McGowan]: thing that happened and that’s not iti mean part of what i do is
[Nick McGowan]: gratitudes the ten gratitudes [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: every day in the morning and atnight and then things that were my lessons
[Nick McGowan]: over all and said could have beenbetter some favorite moments and accomplishments but you
[Nick McGowan]: get into that rhythm and it justbecomes forced a habit now do you have
[Nick McGowan]: anything that helps you like with atime blocking like an app that you follow
[Nick McGowan]: or is it just you you followthe bible of outlook
[Bryan Whittington]: full of the bible avilookei’ve tried differentap
[Nick McGowan]: okay [Bryan Whittington]: the last thing i need is anotherother thing to do so i just throw
[Nick McGowan]: uh [Bryan Whittington]: it on [Nick McGowan]: h [Bryan Whittington]: throw it on my outlook and thenevery saturday i planned two weeks out that
[Bryan Whittington]: way [Nick McGowan]: nice [Bryan Whittington]: it’s not everything is [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: very intentional [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: so for example and i can ican send this i have a youtube
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: umyoutubevideo that i did on [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Bryan Whittington]: how i do time blocking [Nick McGowan]: yeah it [Bryan Whittington]: but really create the perfect week [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: if you identify the perfect week [Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: so let’s take sales if i knowthat i’m supposed to have five
[Nick McGowan]: yes [Bryan Whittington]: first time meetings or ten first timemeetings
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: in a week i’ll put those tenfirst time
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Bryan Whittington]: meetings on the calendar as an openblock and that way i can schedule into
[Bryan Whittington]: it those first time meetings but ifi don’t have
[Nick McGowan]: yes [Bryan Whittington]: a first time meeting guess what thatis forced prospecting to i have
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Bryan Whittington]: study time on their exercise time ontheir strategic planning time i have i’ve just
[Bryan Whittington]: recently started putting lunches because i’ve skippedlunches i have my
[Nick McGowan]: i [Bryan Whittington]: family [Nick McGowan]: know that life [Bryan Whittington]: time that way i end right andwith my
[Nick McGowan]: okay [Bryan Whittington]: family for dinner that’s you know everysingle night we looked to have dinner together
[Bryan Whittington]: as a family to maintain the thosebonds
[Nick McGowan]: it’s awesome and time blocking is almostlike a super power because you get to
[Nick McGowan]: play jas within those walls at whatevertime you’re in you get to actually
[Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: focus and do that stuff instead ofjust going home my god this project took
[Nick McGowan]: me forever sorry honey take me anothercouple of hours to be able to get
[Nick McGowan]: home now you work from home soi’m sure she’d be pretty pissed if you
[Nick McGowan]: said that from your office should belike that’s finn s out here we need
[Nick McGowan]: to eat [Bryan Whittington]: traffic is arendous you can’t believe allthe kids i had to get around
[Nick McGowan]: exactly when you get these kids out [Bryan Whittington]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: oh man [Bryan Whittington]: oh [Nick McGowan]: Bryan well i appreciate you being onthe show i think it has been super
[Nick McGowan]: helpful and and a wealth of knowledgeman so to the audience please follow Bryan
[Nick McGowan]: check out that youtube video i meanhe’s got a lot of stuff he and
[Nick McGowan]: i connect on linked in i knowhe’s all over linked and he’s already talked
[Nick McGowan]: about that to r too you shouldgo follow him but Bryan why don’t you
[Nick McGowan]: tell o tell us where people canconnect with you and where can they follow
[Nick McGowan]: you [Bryan Whittington]: yeah i appreciate that so check usout on check me out on linked in
[Bryan Whittington]: Bryan i spell it incorrectly so br win Bryan whittington you can check me
[Bryan Whittington]: out there we have the podcast thatyou were on the talent sales and scale
[Bryan Whittington]: show so it’s all about how dowe hire top sales talent how do you
[Bryan Whittington]: grow your your your company and howdo you scale it so that’s a talent
[Bryan Whittington]: sales and scales show and then anythingabout sales i love sales i love entreprneurship
[Bryan Whittington]: our mission is to help help communitiesthrive through entrepreneur ship so any way that
[Bryan Whittington]: i can help you to help themission of communities thriving from entrepreneurship reach out
[Bryan Whittington]: love to do that and i appreciateappreciate your having me on here nick more
[Bryan Whittington]: than you think [Nick McGowan]: absolutely man hey we got one lastquestion for you that i asked to everybody
[Nick McGowan]: when they’re n the show what’s thatone piece of advice you’d give somebody on
[Nick McGowan]: their path towards self mastery [Bryan Whittington]: yeah yeah give yourself some grace [Nick McGowan]: m [Bryan Whittington]: realize that you’re better than you wereyesterday that no matter what you’re going to
[Bryan Whittington]: have frustrations and if you don’t giveup tomorrow you’ll be even better version of
[Bryan Whittington]: yourself so cut yourself some grace nowit’s a marathon
[Nick McGowan]: yeah it’s good stuff man appreciate thewisdom appreciate your being on let’s stay in
[Nick McGowan]: touch and we’ll talk soon Bryan thankyou
[Bryan Whittington]: thanks i appreciate it