Episode summary: Dawna Campbell was in a hostile and abusive relationship. Her partner couldn’t break the family cycle of abuse, his father and his father’s father were also abusive. Looking for peace, happiness, and joy, Dawna, her husband, and her children went to live in an ashram.
Dawna was learning a lot but was now starting to question… How can you love someone unconditionally living in such a negative environment? Later, she decided it was time to be free and end the marriage. Dawna started working more on healing, but knew she still had work to do when she would see him around, she would still get the feeling of fear. Dawna continued to work on healing and growing stronger and now wants to help others overcome and become stronger from infidelity, abuse, and devastation.
Guest Name & Bio: Dawna combines her knowledge, wisdom, experience and talents to help people create a life of Happiness, Prosperity, and Love. She has over 25 years combined years of experience and is an international healer, professional speaker, and best-selling author.
Dawna shares the healing techniques that she has learned all around the world, including from yogic healers, Zen Buddhist Monks, and a Medicine Woman while maintaining a private practice. She embodies life and lived in an Ashram (spiritual living community) for a year. This has earned Dawna the title of “The Mind Whisperer” for creating instantaneous results for others in the areas of health, wealth, and relationships.
Dawna has shared the stage with notables, such as Lisa Nichols, Dr. Joe Vitale, Sharon Lechter and Kevin Harrington. She has been featured on Roku TV, Fox News, NBC, and the Los Angeles Tribune.
Dawna’s educational background includes Business Administration Degree’s in both Finance and Marketing, spending over a decade as a Financial Planner and Managing Principal for an Investment Firm.
Her book, “Financially Fit”, is a #1 international best-seller for empowering others through the heart, mind, and soul to gain infinite prosperity.
Dawna currently resides in Bigfork, Montana, is the President of her company, The Healing Heart, Inc., and has 3 beautiful children.
Her personal Heart Centered Healing Philosophy is to live the life you love and love the life you live!

Dawna Campbell
EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION
[Nick McGowan]: Donna welcome to the show I appreciate you being on how are you doing? [Dawna Campbell]: od and thank you so much for having me here with you and on mindset and self mastery [Nick McGowan]: absolutely well when you reached out about the show [Nick McGowan]: i checked out your website what youdo and i’m excited for this episode i
[Nick McGowan]: think there’s a lot thayu’egonna be ableto share and that the audie audience is
[Nick McGowan]: going to be able to take awayfrom it why do you give us some
[Nick McGowan]: context where you come from [Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: who you are that sort of dealbut what do you do for
[Dawna Campbell]: ah [Nick McGowan]: living [Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: and tell us something that most peopledon’t know about you that’s maybe kind of
[Nick McGowan]: weird or bizarre [Dawna Campbell]: okay so where to begin i guess [Nick McGowan]: yea [Dawna Campbell]: my first career because i thought ihad
[Dawna Campbell]: to live my life like how otherpeople parents think you should live your life
[Dawna Campbell]: and i became a financial is erfor an investment form at the height of
[Dawna Campbell]: my career i was responsible for fivehundred million dollars of other people’s money if
[Dawna Campbell]: you do the math [Dawna Campbell]: that’s [Nick McGowan]: sure [Dawna Campbell]: half a billion [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: so sounds a little sexy but youknow it’s not
[Dawna Campbell]: because i gave up my health itcost me my health i couldn’t digest food
[Dawna Campbell]: for over two years [Dawna Campbell]: i couldn’t what i couldn’t digest inthe outside world was the infidelity of my
[Dawna Campbell]: marriage and so that ended and thenduring the global recession being a single parent
[Dawna Campbell]: of two kids i was left financiallydevastated myself even though i followed all the
[Dawna Campbell]: money rules so i did a quicktransition that took me you know two and
[Dawna Campbell]: a half years [Nick McGowan]: oh [Dawna Campbell]: and now i have an international healingpractice i speak i’m an author and i
[Dawna Campbell]: talk a lot about the subconscious creationof money with all the lessons that i’ve
[Dawna Campbell]: learned i guess one of the catalystfor changes there about what somebody may not
[Dawna Campbell]: know about me is that ring thattransition time i lived in a us based
[Dawna Campbell]: austro which is a spiritual living communitylearning about meditation and science and physics and
[Dawna Campbell]: brain wave patterns all through that timeand what love do you have in common
[Dawna Campbell]: because like all of those things thathappened to me had me in common there
[Dawna Campbell]: was even more than what i justshared there but you know understanding yourself and
[Dawna Campbell]: how you fit into this world whatyou’re meant to do
[Nick McGowan]: so i’m sure you’ve walked through yourstory more times than probably you want to
[Nick McGowan]: in certain ways and i’m sure that’sjust
[Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: a condensed piece of it but [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: what i’m hearing is things were crazy [Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: you got a divorce and then youended up in an ash rum and this
[Nick McGowan]: happened in about an eight to twelvemonths period
[Dawna Campbell]: um [Nick McGowan]: that about right [Dawna Campbell]: m so my [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: health from the time my health startedto the time i was financially devastated in
[Dawna Campbell]: that was a four to a fiveyear time period with all
[Dawna Campbell]: of those events i did live inthe austro during that time
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Dawna Campbell]: and the other piece that happened wasi thought
[Dawna Campbell]: i could you know let’s have aspiritual relationship and let’s do that and at
[Dawna Campbell]: the end of two years that thatperson in that spiritual relationship who was all
[Dawna Campbell]: with me at the astra attempted totake my life so all of those things
[Dawna Campbell]: happened in those four to five years [Nick McGowan]: oh my gosh that’s an insane thing [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: it’s kind of funny in a waynot funny laugh laugh funny but funny in
[Nick McGowan]: the sense where you wouldn’t know thatright off the bat
[Dawna Campbell]: no [Nick McGowan]: think about the people you walk downthe street
[Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: and see you wouldn’t know the crazystory that has
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: built that person into who they are [Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: and the whole point of the showis about mind set and self mastery which
[Nick McGowan]: is [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: basically just disciplined so ow did youmanage your mindset through that time looking back
[Nick McGowan]: from where you are now and goinghow did you manage your mindset in that
oment
[Dawna Campbell]: well it was really interesting because onone hand you’re living in the ostrom you’re
[Dawna Campbell]: living by these spiritual principles you’re livingby these virtues these positive moral characteristics and
[Dawna Campbell]: that’s what verything is on the outsideand what you’re learning internally but yet within
[Dawna Campbell]: your own relationship the person that you’rewith was volatile and it was night and
[Dawna Campbell]: day and one moment i’d be momentby at one moment it was really really
[Dawna Campbell]: good it was like heaven on earthand the very next moment whatever the person
[Dawna Campbell]: triggered it would snap and then thenext thing you know you’re like taking their
[Dawna Campbell]: hands off of you because you don’twant to show to death and um
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: not knowing what’s going on within thatperson so it was like a dichotomy and
[Dawna Campbell]: i thought a lot about [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: that over the years and when youasked for a spiritual relay friendship yes you
[Dawna Campbell]: get both sides of a spiritual relationshipand how do you still love somebody unconditionally
[Dawna Campbell]: or love unconditionally with when those typesof things are going on and so i
[Dawna Campbell]: did a lot of work on myselfduring that year
[Dawna Campbell]: um and i met some people thathad some amazing skill sets that showed me
[Dawna Campbell]: some things along the way and ifit wasn’t for them and some the teachers
[Dawna Campbell]: that came into my life i don’tknow where i would be today yeah
[Nick McGowan]: yeah and to be able to lookback at that and feel that the way
[Nick McGowan]: that [Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: you do can you remember what itwas like to be able to actually make
[Nick McGowan]: that pivot where you’re like i haveto change this
[Dawna Campbell]: uh [Nick McGowan]: it’s not always like a black andwhite were one day you wake up go
[Nick McGowan]: holy shit i need to change thingsright now
[Dawna Campbell]: right it’s [Nick McGowan]: but [Dawna Campbell]: not [Nick McGowan]: what did that look like [Dawna Campbell]: yes i remember we had moved fromthe oregon area into montana and that was
[Dawna Campbell]: where i met working with a medicinewoman and she taught me that skill set
[Dawna Campbell]: you said the word pivot was apivot and shift the very first way she
[Dawna Campbell]: taught that to me was physically soif i was in the room and the
[Dawna Campbell]: person started acting out rather than engagewith him then you would just if you
[Dawna Campbell]: were sitting down you would stand upyou would physically move if you were in
[Dawna Campbell]: the room you might go get a [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: glass of water or you might leavethe room whatever it was because every time
[Dawna Campbell]: you physically moved the energy of theroom changed and then after that she taught
[Dawna Campbell]: me how to shift it on anemotional level and i could see where i
[Dawna Campbell]: had been connecting with this person throughnegative vices through the negative connotations also the
[Dawna Campbell]: positive connotation but [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: how to start shifting and changing thatin the deeper subconscious which is the whole
[Dawna Campbell]: scope of the work that i dotoday internationally because everything is vibration frequency and
[Dawna Campbell]: energy and so are our feelings andemotions and so i was essentially my own
[Dawna Campbell]: first client in that but to share [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: with you the volatility of day today he would tell me a story about
[Dawna Campbell]: how his father would leave markings aroundthe house that if his mom didn’t have
[Dawna Campbell]: it perfectly one hundred percent desk freehe would draw a line in it so
[Dawna Campbell]: you could see the line going acrossthe pattern of the desk and if it
[Dawna Campbell]: wasn’t done in a certain time periodit had to have been you know there
[Dawna Campbell]: would have been reprocustions and i rememberthe story and it was about a month
[Dawna Campbell]: later i’m thinking i’m a very cleanperson in that
[Dawna Campbell]: i was cleaning it all the timethat i walked into the kitchen and i
[Dawna Campbell]: saw that marking [Dawna Campbell]: across the stow [Dawna Campbell]: fend and i knew so [Nick McGowan]: geez [Dawna Campbell]: interesting and today this person is nolonger here on earth they’ve crossed over they
[Dawna Campbell]: actually died of bread and cancer butthere was some pretty valuable lessons that i
[Dawna Campbell]: learned from that time period as wellum
[Dawna Campbell]: and even being in that really sonship [Nick McGowan]: it’s interesting that he died of braincancer
[Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: because i was going to ask whatwas it
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: obviously the traumatic [Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: experience is growing up and [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: the the awesome leadership that from hispop
[Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: showing him how to be a completecaptain jerk
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: but there it sounds like there wasprobably
[Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: something deeper mentally [Dawna Campbell]: yesaybe even just brain wise but did
they end up finding anything specifically with that
[Dawna Campbell]: um not that i know of iactually left the relationship
[Dawna Campbell]: i ran into him a couple oftimes after that and at first you
[Nick McGowan]: with [Dawna Campbell]: go [Nick McGowan]: your [Dawna Campbell]: into [Nick McGowan]: car [Dawna Campbell]: complete fear [Nick McGowan]: like [Dawna Campbell]: thou [Nick McGowan]: at him with things [Dawna Campbell]: thou that could have been interesting no [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: um [Dawna Campbell]: um like in the grocery stores indifferent places
[Dawna Campbell]: like that and i would go intoa complete fear set i would tremble from
[Dawna Campbell]: the inside out so i knew ihad more work
[Nick McGowan]: a bet [Dawna Campbell]: to do and then when i gotgood with it it was a while later
[Dawna Campbell]: i saw an obituary posted it justsurfaced up in social media i wasn’t looking
[Dawna Campbell]: for it but it was like theuniverse wanting me to know this is what
[Dawna Campbell]: happened so that’s how i know hedied
[Dawna Campbell]: of brain cancer and i knowing whati know about cancer tracing it back the
[Dawna Campbell]: start of it would have been atthe time i left the relation ship of
[Dawna Campbell]: when it was coming into his energyfields i thought that was really interesting because
[Dawna Campbell]: he was already engaging in that energywith it and and so at first i
[Dawna Campbell]: had compassion and you remember all thegood times and everything and then i had
[Dawna Campbell]: to stop and no dona there wassome things that were not acceptable like the
[Dawna Campbell]: day you almost died and then andthen i learned more on those value sets
[Dawna Campbell]: and then it was about a yearago that i realized that wait a minute
[Dawna Campbell]: this person is not here i ami’m worthy to
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: live they’re they’re dealing with their ownkarma so if i’m worthy to live how
[Dawna Campbell]: do i want to live well iwant to live abundantly
[Dawna Campbell]: and prosperously and that’s a huge messagethat i share with people around the world
[Dawna Campbell]: today you work you’re sitting in frontof me you’re listening to the podcast and
[Dawna Campbell]: you are also worthy of this becauseyou
[Dawna Campbell]: are here otherwise you wouldn’t be solive abundantly and
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: prosperously [Nick McGowan]: oh absolutely yeah if you if youcan choose to do it the right way
[Nick McGowan]: in [Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: positive way [Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: why the hell would you choose oppositeof that it
[Dawna Campbell]: you wouldn’takes no sense no but we’re conditioned
in certain ways
[Dawna Campbell]: we are [Nick McGowan]: and some of that comes from justlike what you’re talking about
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: with the x his father and i’msure his father’s father and father and father
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: and further back et cetera [Dawna Campbell]: yep [Nick McGowan]: where somebody needs to break that chainso you’ve got children
[Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: what does that look like because itsounds doesn’t sound like to me at the
[Nick McGowan]: end of your life you’re going togo damn i didn’t break the chain because
[Nick McGowan]: you’ve obviously done that [Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: so what does that look like foryour kids and did they experience some of
[Nick McGowan]: that raziness and [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: nonsense [Dawna Campbell]: they did they were pretty young atthe time when that happened
[Dawna Campbell]: and they went to the school atthe austro and we were all learning and
[Dawna Campbell]: growing together i did their teacher trainingprogram so they weren’t around during some of
[Dawna Campbell]: those crazy volatile times and if theydo remember anything it’s very very minor i
[Nick McGowan]: it’s [Dawna Campbell]: think [Nick McGowan]: good [Dawna Campbell]: subconsciously they blocked some of it outwhich was probably good and what happened during
[Dawna Campbell]: that time was all [Nick McGowan]: oh [Dawna Campbell]: of those things that we did becauseof the school that they went to they
[Dawna Campbell]: learned a lot about mind set theylearned a lot about having that self mastery
[Dawna Campbell]: and how to work through their ownemotions and feelings so they would start off
[Dawna Campbell]: their day with yoga meditation at theschool um and then moved into their daily
[Dawna Campbell]: activities and it was a very verysmall school like forty fifty students from grey
[Dawna Campbell]: kinder garden [Dawna Campbell]: to six grade so it wasn’t huge [Nick McGowan]: how [Dawna Campbell]: and [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: they got a lot of personal trainand like that and what that gave them
[Dawna Campbell]: today is a really good solid foundationto who they’ve become so my son who
[Dawna Campbell]: was older is now in the militaryhe’s married and off on his own he
[Dawna Campbell]: just finished lineman school and then mydaughter she’s eighteen she’s already a c n
[Dawna Campbell]: a certified nurses assistant and she justfinished
[Dawna Campbell]: medical assistant training and has and sothey have really good grounding that way and
[Dawna Campbell]: i remember when we first moved tothe new town we were in here in
[Dawna Campbell]: montana she came home from school oneday and said we didn’t grow up like
[Dawna Campbell]: the rest of these kids and idon’t understand
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Dawna Campbell]: them because they participate [Nick McGowan]: uh [Dawna Campbell]: in act this [Nick McGowan]: uh [Dawna Campbell]: way but [Dawna Campbell]: we’re like this over here like theydon’t take into consideration
[Dawna Campbell]: other people and their parade [Nick McGowan]: oh [Dawna Campbell]: and what they’re going through they justlook at it from their self point of
[Dawna Campbell]: view so they’re very very good thatway so
[Nick McGowan]: and [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: that’s so awesome if only other [Dawna Campbell]: my [Nick McGowan]: school you know all schools had [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: that [Dawna Campbell]: yah [Nick McGowan]: i think of the it’s easy forcertain people that have gone to like public
[Nick McGowan]: school and you [Dawna Campbell]: h [Nick McGowan]: know private schools where they can crackjokes about it and everybody can find something
[Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: about whatever they grew up with butthere are certain
[Dawna Campbell]: ye [Nick McGowan]: human core principles and spiritual [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: principles that everybody just needs to knowand
[Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: then to be able to actually make [Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: better decisions instead of just being taughtit’s like a factory you do this
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: thing this way and you’re supposed toget this thing
[Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: but if you actually know how tolearn that’s a whole different story
[Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: o that’s it’s great i mean ifthat’s the only positive thing that came out
[Nick McGowan]: of it that you’ve got awesome kidsthen honestly well done
[Dawna Campbell]: they’ll make [Nick McGowan]: like [Dawna Campbell]: the world a better place they bothhave
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: a huge degree of compassion and thatif a
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: system is not working then they havethe ability to be they’re in that system
[Dawna Campbell]: to make and help make and facilitatechanges so the system is better for everybody
[Dawna Campbell]: and i watched him do it throughouttheir schooling i remember one time my daughter
[Dawna Campbell]: came home and she was vastly upsetactually she called me at lunch time because
[Dawna Campbell]: one student threw their lunch away inthe garbage can and happened to ben soup
[Dawna Campbell]: and it spilled all over another studentwalked by picked it up and started eating
[Dawna Campbell]: and she totally freaked out because shethought that that person needed food and then
[Dawna Campbell]: have access to food and called meand needed
[Dawna Campbell]: to come home but i made her [Nick McGowan]: ah [Dawna Campbell]: go to the principle they talked aboutand realized she found out later that the
[Dawna Campbell]: person did it on a dare [Nick McGowan]: sure [Dawna Campbell]: and it wasn’t [Nick McGowan]: because [Dawna Campbell]: about [Nick McGowan]: they’re [Dawna Campbell]: that [Nick McGowan]: in school [Dawna Campbell]: and i’m like if the if thechild needs food i will
[Dawna Campbell]: set up a lunch account for themand i’ll pay for it they don’t need
[Dawna Campbell]: to know because we need access tofood and healthy food but she was he
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: do go in and make a differencewith but she went through a whole emotional
[Dawna Campbell]: side but it was out of thatlove and out of that compassion that
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: she’s known since she was [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: three because she was three and threefour when she started at the strong
[Nick McGowan]: and [Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: that’s an awesome view to be ableto look at that because you know
[Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: i think back to school where [Dawna Campbell]: h [Nick McGowan]: somebody would do that and be likeyeah
[Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: that’s that kid that would do thatwho’s
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: that person that’s the one who that’sthe one who dared them where somebody’s just
[Nick McGowan]: golfing around [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: but that’s so sweet that she justjumps in immediately like oh my gosh how
[Nick McGowan]: can [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: i help she sounds [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: like she’s a little eager like crazyeager in a
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: sense like i want to do thisoh you’re you’re fine all right cool i
[Nick McGowan]: just want to be [Dawna Campbell]: probably [Nick McGowan]: able to [Dawna Campbell]: why [Nick McGowan]: help [Dawna Campbell]: she’s in the medical profession now [Nick McGowan]: exactly good and have her keep movingthat way that’s cool so let’s take a
[Nick McGowan]: little bit of a step back [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: obviously you kind of went through someof the craziness that had
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: happened but let’s break apart some ofthose but are there any major episodes that
[Nick McGowan]: have happened that you look back toand we’re kind of that pivot point at
[Nick McGowan]: least a moment where you go [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: hat was a moment in time thatchanged me
[Dawna Campbell]: yes um i can think of thetime i was sitting on the sofa reading
[Dawna Campbell]: a book and he had come downstairslooked over at me out of the blue
[Dawna Campbell]: out of nowhere he walks over putshis hand around my neck his thumb cutting
[Dawna Campbell]: off my air way and then hedrew up his fist so i could see
[Dawna Campbell]: it i was frozen and i isreally frozen in time and i remember looking
[Dawna Campbell]: at him going this is it ican’t breathe and about a moment maybe two
[Dawna Campbell]: moments before i took my last coupleof breaths he took his hand off he
[Dawna Campbell]: pulled me up off the sofa andhanded me this exercise board it was called
[Dawna Campbell]: a voodoo board so it’s ah itrolls back and forth for like to practice
[Dawna Campbell]: for snow snow boarding and skin andthings
[Dawna Campbell]: and he handed me the board andsaid it’s your turn you just hit me
[Dawna Campbell]: with this i deserve it now andthe moment that i had was i looked
[Dawna Campbell]: at this board and i looked upat him going what do i do because
[Dawna Campbell]: that’s not in my nature i rememberlooking
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: back utting the board down and isaid i can’t do that
[Dawna Campbell]: and i got up walked out ofthe room and that was that moment i
[Dawna Campbell]: couldn’t it’s not in me just notthere and that i think that is just
[Dawna Campbell]: a definition of true authentic character ihad every right to do it back but
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: i couldn’t after i made it homesafe to a different state i contacted my
[Dawna Campbell]: lawyer [Nick McGowan]: sure yeah [Dawna Campbell]: after i got [Nick McGowan]: it makes [Dawna Campbell]: out of [Nick McGowan]: total [Dawna Campbell]: harm’s [Nick McGowan]: sense [Dawna Campbell]: way that way so yeah [Nick McGowan]: yeah man that’s a in that momentyou’re right the character shown
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: because you had every right to evenbreak that dam board and half slice his
[Nick McGowan]: throat with it or do whatever youwanted
[Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: and people would have potentially [Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: understood but it seems almost like [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: he was trying to push you toa level
[Dawna Campbell]: oh [Nick McGowan]: to get you to be on thesame level of monster
[Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: um and that’s a whole different psychological [Dawna Campbell]: there [Nick McGowan]: aspect [Dawna Campbell]: is there is and [Nick McGowan]: you know along with the spiritual sideof it
[Dawna Campbell]: right and my i remember going backto idaho and talking to my lawyer and
[Dawna Campbell]: he goes i am so thankful youdid not retaliate because if you did
[Dawna Campbell]: he would have called it in potentiallydomestic violence and you would have been the
[Dawna Campbell]: unarrested and not him and what isreally interesting today this is years later of
[Dawna Campbell]: all of the things from that thatis the one thing i still own in
[Dawna Campbell]: my possession is that board and thatroller
[Nick McGowan]: uh [Dawna Campbell]: ball it’s [Nick McGowan]: uh [Dawna Campbell]: in my exercise [Dawna Campbell]: room it’s just propped up it’s myreminder and when i go out on stages
[Dawna Campbell]: and speak and share opinion on ibring it because it’s example i still have
[Dawna Campbell]: it to this day [Nick McGowan]: do you think it holds any ofhis energy
[Dawna Campbell]: i don’t think so any more iam
[Nick McGowan]: gotten rid of all of it [Dawna Campbell]: like with all the stuff that ido in the techniques and the clarion and
[Dawna Campbell]: everything [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: it’s not there it doesn’t have thatphysical hold over to me but it’s a
[Dawna Campbell]: definite reminder especially knowing that i’m stillhere and i’m worthy to live and to
[Dawna Campbell]: do the things i meant to doshare these principles make an impact in the
[Dawna Campbell]: world created a better place help thosethat need to be helped in whatever way
[Dawna Campbell]: it’s possible it’s just a reminder idon’t look at it every day i don’t
[Dawna Campbell]: see it every day very rarely [Nick McGowan]: of course [Dawna Campbell]: do i even see it [Nick McGowan]: not like [Dawna Campbell]: but [Nick McGowan]: you [Dawna Campbell]: it’s [Nick McGowan]: walk [Dawna Campbell]: just [Nick McGowan]: by [Dawna Campbell]: there [Nick McGowan]: the room and you’re looking at it [Dawna Campbell]: right it’s just there [Nick McGowan]: like i see [Dawna Campbell]: as [Nick McGowan]: you [Dawna Campbell]: as part of that because it’s apart of my story and
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: i haven’t used it since that timeis just significant to me so
[Nick McGowan]: that’s awesome it’s cool that you literallyhave something that you’ve conquered in that
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: way and you have it in yourphysical presence where
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: you can look at it whenever youwant but it’s not something that’s petually you
[Nick McGowan]: know kind of pulling at your energyso talk to us a little bit about
[Nick McGowan]: what you’re doing now because the accumulationof everything you’ve learned and
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: all that you’ve gotten to is nowwhat you’re doing so i think we
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: understand how you got there and whatkind of created but what has it created
[Nick McGowan]: and what are you doing now [Dawna Campbell]: so today i have an international healingpractice and i’ve been taking that from the
[Dawna Campbell]: individual level to the global [Dawna Campbell]: stage [Nick McGowan]: oh [Dawna Campbell]: and i have a book called financiallife living the secrets to an abundant prosperous
[Dawna Campbell]: life i teach the programs and iteach everything that i do in the healing
[Dawna Campbell]: world and share it also out onstage internationally as i speak but really about
[Dawna Campbell]: making the world a better place ormaking an impact in the world because there’s
[Dawna Campbell]: three area as clients all around theworld doesn’t matter what country you’re in or
[Dawna Campbell]: what culture you’re in you want achange with your health your wealth or a
[Dawna Campbell]: relationship and all three of those areinterconnected and when i was in the financial
[Dawna Campbell]: world those were the exact same threeareas of my life that as affected because
[Dawna Campbell]: i wasn’t listening to those wake upcalls and when i sat with that in
[Dawna Campbell]: meditation i realized the values people reallywant in life is happiness prosperity and love
[Dawna Campbell]: prosperity meaning all things not money andmonetary
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: and material things and so that’s whati bring to clients today except i do
[Dawna Campbell]: it through the techniques that i learnedafter being my own first client working with
[Dawna Campbell]: the people that i’ve worked programming thesubconscious to accept say peace and balance and
[Dawna Campbell]: eliminate stress and frustration maybe it’s happinessand releasing bitterness or whatever we hold on
[Dawna Campbell]: to in our body the stress theanxiety the depression the anger the rage my
[Dawna Campbell]: key word was anger that i hadbeen holding on that
[Dawna Campbell]: destroyed mydigestive system and everything and whenthat ship some changes in the subconscious that
[Dawna Campbell]: energy is not there any more ornot as prominent and then you can be
[Dawna Campbell]: in those better frequencies or those betteremotions and feelings and you’re like i’m calm
[Dawna Campbell]: and balanced and i at [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: peace or i have happiness or ihave harmony and then you get to move
[Dawna Campbell]: forward attracting that magnetically back into yourlife through the law of magnetism versus the
[Dawna Campbell]: things that you it wont and becausethat was my transition over those years that’s
[Dawna Campbell]: what my gift is to the worldto help other people through that transition and
[Dawna Campbell]: it happens instantaneously i’m going to saythat
[Nick McGowan]: hm it’s a lot of work leadingup to it for some people
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: to be able to actually figure thatstuff out
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: so for people that are actively inthat spot that are listening to this episode
[Nick McGowan]: that go i want that and i’vebeen
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: looking for that clarity and [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: being able to actually feel that senseof peace without giving away secret sauce
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: what sort of stuff do you walkyour clients through or even some of the
[Nick McGowan]: talks that you have from age tobe able
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: to get into the depths of that [Dawna Campbell]: um from clients what i do isi find out certain key information first i
[Dawna Campbell]: have to know what it is youwant to work on whether it’s trauma
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: abuse maybe you just want more moneyin your if um i had one person
[Dawna Campbell]: earlier today called me and asked meokay my mind sets going back to scarcity
[Dawna Campbell]: i need to make a change sowe fund and cover that the second step
[Dawna Campbell]: is to create the awareness and oncethat awareness comes in we can identify what
[Dawna Campbell]: the feeling is so the awareness isthat you’re feeling something when these things are
[Dawna Campbell]: half and then the third step creatingthe um identifying the feeling so what does
[Dawna Campbell]: scarcity feel like to a person andthen we can locate
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: that where it’s in the body andbecause there’s cellular memory in the body it
[Dawna Campbell]: will trigger the conscious to recall or [Dawna Campbell]: remember an event where that feeling wasassociated because what we’re doing is we’re going
[Dawna Campbell]: back to the earliest possible event thatyou can recall that started the pattern of
[Dawna Campbell]: the feeling that it was attracting scarcitywhich would be the answer to the problem
[Dawna Campbell]: which is the feeling that you’re feeling [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: and then we can also uncover whatit was that you actually needed in the
[Dawna Campbell]: moment no we didn’t to feel frustratedwe didn’t need to feel angry we were
[Dawna Campbell]: looking for something else usually it’s loveor happiness or some other good feeling and
[Dawna Campbell]: then the secret sauce shifting that ina person’s brain so the energy goes down
[Dawna Campbell]: a different neurone pathway and when thathappens you feel it instantaneously in the body
[Dawna Campbell]: it’s a physiological change because in everymoment every frequency exists every emotion exists is
[Dawna Campbell]: just that you got stuck on angerinstead of balance
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: for example and when that transition takesplace just do this over the phone then
[Dawna Campbell]: when you go back and look atthe earlier event you go oh it looks
[Dawna Campbell]: a little bit different [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: which is part of the process thatthe medicine woman her name is leandre i
[Dawna Campbell]: call her the medicine woman because sheis a medicine woman but she looks like
[Dawna Campbell]: missus doutfire on robin [Nick McGowan]: uh [Dawna Campbell]: williams movie she [Nick McGowan]: ah [Dawna Campbell]: didn’t look like an indian lady [Dawna Campbell]: but what exactly how she taught meand then when you go back into the
[Dawna Campbell]: body where you felt that energy atfirst you are like oh that looks different
[Dawna Campbell]: that feels different although not in mystomach is gone
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: what just happened because you’re creating awarenessof a new paradise and the next thing
[Dawna Campbell]: you know [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: you have the things you want versusthe things you don’t want and it happens
[Dawna Campbell]: in all areas of life and whenyou make a change in one area if
[Dawna Campbell]: you’re looking at something financially your healthwill improve your relationships will improve because it’s
[Dawna Campbell]: all based on frequent cyfie ration andenergy which is what nichalatesa says is the
[Dawna Campbell]: secrets to the interverse m [Nick McGowan]: absolutely agreed it’s [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: it’s always interesting to me to [Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: think about the recipe to all ofthis
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: how there are things that you haveto do consistently and have to change
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: and look at ifferently [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: so it’s almost at the cost ofsounding like a total nerve it’s video game
[Nick McGowan]: like in some ways where you haveto
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: go through these puzzles to be ableto figure
[Dawna Campbell]: you [Nick McGowan]: this [Dawna Campbell]: do [Nick McGowan]: stuff out but [Dawna Campbell]: do [Nick McGowan]: people will yell at this creen andtheir controller and go why can i just
[Nick McGowan]: have the result [Dawna Campbell]: uh [Nick McGowan]: like why can’t i just be fixedand you’re
[Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: like well you got to play thefreaking game you got to go through it
[Nick McGowan]: and i’m sure this point you knowgoing through the awareness and understanding where everything
[Nick McGowan]: is and [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: kind of what you want to doand then going through the body etcetera you
[Nick McGowan]: can probably do it like that [Dawna Campbell]: i do [Nick McGowan]: you personally [Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: as you go through craziness [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: something happens you go wait a minuteprocess through and kind of walk through it
[Dawna Campbell]: mhm [Nick McGowan]: i would imagine that a lot ofyour clients start to see some of those
[Nick McGowan]: sort [Dawna Campbell]: h [Nick McGowan]: of aspects coming up in times butcan you make note for for the audience
[Nick McGowan]: for when they’re going through that becausei kind of preach
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: the same thing in a way [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: as they’re going through that what tolook for because i always promote those
[Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: little winds that you can kind ofcapitalize on
[Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: but the things that you talk toyour clients about like keep an eye out
[Nick McGowan]: for this [Dawna Campbell]: i think the biggest tip that ican share is about creating that awareness because
[Dawna Campbell]: a lot of times we are [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: so disassociated with how we feel inthe moment because we’re busy we’re busy doing
[Dawna Campbell]: things we’re busy on a zoom call [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: we’re busy putting together an invoice we’rebusy over here we’re busy over there and
[Dawna Campbell]: we forget to check in with ourselvesand once
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: you check in with yourself you canstop and ask your how do you feel
[Dawna Campbell]: so set a timer on your phonefor like odd times like you know one
[Dawna Campbell]: hour and thirty three minutes from whatevertime it is
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: now and when that time goes offno matter what you’re doing you stop close
[Dawna Campbell]: your eyes and ask yourself how doi feel if you’re happy and joyful and
[Dawna Campbell]: abundant and pleasant and all of thatkeep on going but if you’re not and
[Dawna Campbell]: you’re like wait a minute i feela little stressed i feel a little like
[Dawna Campbell]: i’ve been paying [Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: my bills i’m not feeling so goodin this moment beaus i have to give
[Dawna Campbell]: my money [Nick McGowan]: ah [Dawna Campbell]: away or whatever it is that’s thetime to stop and ask yourself how you
[Dawna Campbell]: would rather feel and do the oppositeof it so if you feel stressed in
[Dawna Campbell]: the moment ask for peace but you’regoing to it threw two minutes of breathing
[Dawna Campbell]: so when you breathe in you breathein oxygen all the really good things that
[Dawna Campbell]: the body needs and we breathe outwe breathe out carbon dioxide all the toxins
[Dawna Campbell]: that we don’t need so when youidentify how you feel the opposite breathe in
[Dawna Campbell]: peace breathe out stress and mentally thinkthose words every time you breathe in and
[Dawna Campbell]: breathe out and you will start tofeel the physiological effect in your body once
[Dawna Campbell]: you understand that awareness and then whenthat happens
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Dawna Campbell]: you go back at your task youhave more clarity you have more focus you
[Dawna Campbell]: have more balance the task that you’reworking on finishes faster than it normally would
[Dawna Campbell]: even though it took five minutes outof your day to identify how you feel
[Dawna Campbell]: to create that awareness [Nick McGowan]: sometimes just taking that beat just ab a moment or two
[Dawna Campbell]: yep [Nick McGowan]: can shift everything [Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: absolutely [Dawna Campbell]: so that’s what i [Nick McGowan]: and [Dawna Campbell]: do [Nick McGowan]: that [Dawna Campbell]: for myself [Nick McGowan]: that is [Dawna Campbell]: instantaneously i always check myself in mentallyonly takes me two or
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Dawna Campbell]: three breaths any more and i canchange it m
[Nick McGowan]: what a beautiful thing right you [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: know once you get to that pointwhere you can do that and go hold
[Nick McGowan]: up i’ve noticed over the [Dawna Campbell]: yes [Nick McGowan]: years that when my native state ofjust kind of being type and
[Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: over joyous at time when i’m notthere i’m like there’s something wrong
[Dawna Campbell]: h [Nick McGowan]: what is it and being able tokind of check in with yourself with that
[Nick McGowan]: so right there along with you it’s [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: interesting how that stuff works though becauseif you’re not aware of it how are
[Nick McGowan]: you supposed to do anything [Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: about anything if [Dawna Campbell]: hm [Nick McGowan]: you have no idea that anything isgoing on and i think a lot of
[Nick McGowan]: people just kind of sit in thatkind of soup where they’re just pissed like
[Nick McGowan]: i don’t get it [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: today is just a terrible day [Dawna Campbell]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: well that sucks what yo’re gonna dothough screw it
[Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: like all [Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: right [Dawna Campbell]: what would you rather have [Nick McGowan]: you got to shift yeah choose somethingdifferent and so well i appreciate
[Dawna Campbell]: m [Nick McGowan]: you jumping through all of that andbeing able to explain what that looks like
[Nick McGowan]: what kind of advice would you givesomebody that’s on their path towards that mastery
[Dawna Campbell]: i’m going to share a mantra thati wrote during all of those hard difficult
[Dawna Campbell]: times and it is trust and youwill see believe and you will know have
[Dawna Campbell]: faith all as well follow what’s inyour heart and spirit will lead you
[Nick McGowan]: i should just turn the thing offnow that was beautiful thank you
[Dawna Campbell]: you are welcomean well it’s been a pleasure having
you on the show
[Dawna Campbell]: thank you [Nick McGowan]: tell us where people can find youand where they can connect with you
[Dawna Campbell]: well the easiest fastest way is ifyou have a cell phone you can do
[Dawna Campbell]: a text often so text the wordabundance to two six seven eight six it’s
[Dawna Campbell]: a five digit number so abundance totwo seven eight six or you can just
[Dawna Campbell]: go to donna campbell dot com [Nick McGowan]: thank you jonah [Dawna Campbell]: right [Nick McGowan]: and i’ll have all that all thatcontact info in the show notes it’s been
[Nick McGowan]: a pleasure to have you on iappreciate your time
[Dawna Campbell]: all right thank you so very much