Episode summary: Heather is a life coach, yoga instructor, and the owner of Ignite Your Sunshine.
She’s originally from New York and her struggle with anorexia ultimately led her down a path toward healing where she spent years working on herself, her body, mind, and Yoga was a major piece of that healing.
We get into some deep topics like self-abandonment and the power of our inner voice but we also share a bunch of laughs.
Guest Name & Bio: Heather, tell us about yourself…
“Hi! I’m Heather. I’m a life coach, yoga teacher, personal trainer, sunshine spreader, and the owner of Ignite Your Sunshine.
Through life coaching, yoga, integrative wellness, and/or Ignite Your Sunshine Scents’ proprietary blend of essential oils, I empower all humans to feel whole, and complete and live their greatest lives possible.
Wherever you are in life, whatever you are experiencing, you are not alone and you are welcome here. Come join me for class or for an event, or reach out to me personally to connect 1×1 and I’ll be happy to support you however appropriate. Sending you love and light!”
EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION
[Nick McGowan] Heather Viniar hello and welcome tothe show how are you doing i’m great
[Heather Viniar] hey i’m great how are you [Nick McGowan] i’m so excited you’re here we’ve had ahandful of minutes to chat before we started
[Nick McGowan] doing the recording here and i can tellright off the bat we’re gonna hit it
[Nick McGowan] off and at one point you said i’mfrom new york i was like well i’m
[Nick McGowan] from philly so it would be totally goodand the non cursing and you kind of
[Nick McGowan] said all right with that so welcome tothe show why don’t you start us off
[Nick McGowan] tell us what you do for a livingand one thing that most people don’t know
[Nick McGowan] about you [Heather Viniar] man okay so i’m gonna skip to thati’m gonna stick to that third one right
[Nick McGowan] on the spot already [Heather Viniar] off the like right off the bath becauselike i’m pretty open so i’m not sure
[Heather Viniar] what people don’t really know about me butlike i digress first of all thank you
[Nick McGowan] okay [Heather Viniar] so much for having me here i’m reallygrateful to be here with you yeah i
[Heather Viniar] i’ve so i i told you right beforehandlike i was really looking forward to being
[Heather Viniar] on here and then i looked at mycalendar today and like my computer like deleted
[Nick McGowan] better [Heather Viniar] the event from my calendar but i stilllike knew that it was there and i
[Heather Viniar] was really excited for it so yeah justthank you for having me um my name’s
[Heather Viniar] Heather Viniar i own ignite your sunshine which isa coaching and wellness business it’s health it’s
[Heather Viniar] life coaching private yoga i am a personaltrainer i don’t currently personal train but i
[Heather Viniar] use my knowledge from personal training and nutritionto incorporate it into really integrative programs for
[Heather Viniar] my clients so if i have a clientwho is like working with me for live
[Heather Viniar] coaching but also want some nutrition support igot them like i it’s i work in
[Heather Viniar] a really holistic in a hurry in areally holistic way and so those are services
[Heather Viniar] that i offer through night your sunshine ialso i also own ignite your sunshine s
[Heather Viniar] which is a it’s like a portion ofignite year sunshine and so i created proprietary
[Heather Viniar] blend essential oils and i sell them asroller poll bottles as room sprays and as
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] um and as serums like dropper bottles sothat people can put them into their diffuser
[Heather Viniar] you can could drop it into laundry youcould put it in a in a bubble
[Heather Viniar] bath if you are so inclined to soit’s like you it’s you get this whole
[Nick McGowan] o [Heather Viniar] like holistic health and wellness vibe from igniteyour sunshine and that’s kind of that’s what
[Heather Viniar] i do i guess i have to saysomething that people don’t know about me at
[Nick McGowan] correct [Heather Viniar] this point hm um okay so i’m gonnapreface this by saying i’m not flighty the
[Heather Viniar] reason is the we [Nick McGowan] anything with a disclaimer like let me justgive you disclaimer first
[Heather Viniar] the reason why i’m like prefacing by sayingthat is i have moved probably nineteen times
[Heather Viniar] since two thousand and eight and like whichis like a pretty solid amount of time
[Heather Viniar] given the number of years between two thousandeight and right now in twenty twenty two
[Heather Viniar] but um before two thousand eight i literallylived in the same exact house like grew
[Heather Viniar] up until i was twenty one twenty twentyone twenty two twenty twenty two yes in
[Nick McGowan] in your early twenties [Heather Viniar] my early twenties let’s go with that yeahin the stam house in plainview new york
[Heather Viniar] and yeah then i moved down to floridaand like as soon as i moved to
[Heather Viniar] florida like i i just moved like andlike many of those moves were like within
[Nick McGowan] nice [Heather Viniar] the same exact vicinity some of them werelike one of them i did move overseas
[Heather Viniar] for a period of time for grad schooli also like lived on the opposite coast
[Heather Viniar] of florida for a little while but likei like i just i have just moved
[Heather Viniar] so you need some tips on packing igot you
[Nick McGowan] yeah there’s some people that literally just stayin the same town maybe even in the
[Nick McGowan] same house like i know there are peoplealmost seems like a really old timey thing
[Nick McGowan] like well you know met the neighbor downthe street we got married at sixteen popped
[Nick McGowan] out nine kids and i got a corporatejob we moved into mom and dad’s house
[Nick McGowan] it’s not really a thing anymore i meani guess there are some parts of the
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] country that does that but different part [Heather Viniar] yeah i would think that there are stillsome parts that do that but like i
[Heather Viniar] just like your mainstream mainstream america like that’snot necessarily the norm anymore but i do
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] there are definitely people that i grew upwith and like i didn’t grow up in
[Heather Viniar] a small town like we i it wasnot like a small pod town nothing against
[Heather Viniar] those types of towns they’re great they havetheir special place in the world but like
[Heather Viniar] where i grew up was not that andthere’s still a lot of people that live
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] in the in the vicinity and like allthe power to them it just wasn’t me
[Nick McGowan] i’m right there with you and i thinkthere’s like a fine line look we can
[Nick McGowan] be honest there’s a fine line where you’relike why the fuck are you still there
[Nick McGowan] and then another line of like you knowyou everybody can do their own thing so
[Nick McGowan] i appreciate you being kind of political ina sense with it but i know there
[Nick McGowan] are people there are people that listen tothis show that are from mil neck of
[Nick McGowan] the woods that still live there i appreciatethose people but even with them i’m like
[Nick McGowan] why the fuck are you still there they’relike well you see my businesses here and
[Nick McGowan] this and that like gotta move well welcometo florida i live in i’m basically in
[Nick McGowan] near tampa now you’re on the other coastright okay oh okay cool i mean this
[Heather Viniar] yeah yeah yeah i’m in uh i’m inpalm beach county i live in jupiter
[Nick McGowan] is this is just basically paradise so ihope people don’t turn off the episode at
[Nick McGowan] this point that don’t live in florida butthose of you who don’t like hey we
[Nick McGowan] live here come on down and visit likei’m looking at the pool right now and
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] it’s probably seventy degrees outside so come ondown i still friends and family that are
[Heather Viniar] yeah yeah [Nick McGowan] up north that are like oh man feelsbeautiful out it is fifty four degrees i’m
[Nick McGowan] like jeeze that sounds cold and like whatthe fuck is wrong with you
[Heather Viniar] but sounds awful i thought okay so iknow this world that’s up in the orlando
[Heather Viniar] area and i was on i don’t rememberif it was facebook or insta it was
[Heather Viniar] like one of those a couple of daysago and she literally posted something and it
[Heather Viniar] was like florida is one of nine statesthat isn’t snowing today in the united states
[Heather Viniar] and i was like yes there’s a reasonwe’re here
[Nick McGowan] yeah shit i st still family that’s likehey you coming up for christmas i’m like
[Nick McGowan] what still snows there right they’re like yeahi’m like well then no i’m gonna sit
[Nick McGowan] by my pool what is wrong with youcome on down here oh yeah alright so
[Heather Viniar] serious s they’ll make the migration at somepoint it’s like typical northeast like you’re from
[Nick McGowan] yeah i mean they typically do when they’rea bit older though like i did it
[Heather Viniar] the northeast yeah and up [Nick McGowan] in my in my early thirties and nowi’m like shit i’m not going anywhere else
[Nick McGowan] i mean maybe so cow but that’s adifferent lifestyle over there that’s let’s pull back
[Nick McGowan] from that so people they’ll just be likewhat the kind of travel should are they
[Nick McGowan] talking about on this show so [Heather Viniar] no no i am i mean just inresponse to that i have wanted to live
[Heather Viniar] in california for like ever and like iam not leaving or going anywhere like my
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] family is here i have i have aniece and nephew that’s here like i’m not
[Heather Viniar] going anywhere i like i at some pointmy goal is to have like little many
[Heather Viniar] Heather Viniars and i mean like not just minimes like obviously like a husband will like
[Nick McGowan] not cloning yourself [Heather Viniar] have genetics in here as well but likei wanna have like little ones running around
[Heather Viniar] and like i want them to live neartheir cuts yeah and like they i’m not
[Nick McGowan] sure yeah that makes sense oh man andespecially when you have so much sun constantly
[Heather Viniar] going anywhere florida is [Nick McGowan] and it’s beautiful i i think about growingup with the different seasons being in the
[Nick McGowan] northeast you saw the different seasons they werelike those periods where you’re like oh it’s
[Nick McGowan] starting to get cold there oh man it’sreally cold it’s bone chilling cold and then
[Nick McGowan] it would start to get warmer we don’treally experience that here we’re just basically just
[Nick McGowan] nice and then it’s like sort of notnice and then it’s really nice again but
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] i think we need to stop the wholeflorida stuff the fact that you traveled around
[Nick McGowan] a lot is a big thing so wheni think of two thousand eight that was
[Nick McGowan] actually a bit ago and a lot ofstuff has happened since two thousand eight so
[Nick McGowan] i haven’t counted the amount of times thati’ve moved but i’m at least in probably
[Heather Viniar] yep [Nick McGowan] around that nineteen twentyish area as well ithink some of that has actually helped to
[Nick McGowan] shape me the way that i’ve experienced differentthings so can you talk about some of
[Heather Viniar] oh yeah [Nick McGowan] what you’ve experienced not only just with themoves but as we talk about it and
[Nick McGowan] look back like what’s kind of shaped youfrom that
[Heather Viniar] yeah so the first initial move down herelike the initial like move from new york
[Heather Viniar] to here the first thing that i canreally pinpoint about that is i had struggled
[Heather Viniar] with anxiety for like ever like anxiety depressioni was severely anorexic in my teens and
[Nick McGowan] hm [Heather Viniar] in my early twenties and like getting downhere to florida was
[Heather Viniar] it slowed me down and it gave mei think also the fact that like i
[Heather Viniar] had moved from a situation where i knewall of these people to a place where
[Heather Viniar] like i literally was starting from scratch andthe only people that i knew that were
[Heather Viniar] surrounding me were my family it probably alsogave me a little bit of time like
[Heather Viniar] to myself to like figure some shit outand it was in that time that i
[Nick McGowan] yeah hm [Heather Viniar] like got myself help for my eating disorderand like i’ve been i was i was
[Heather Viniar] thinking about it i was thinking about itlike two weeks ago because i was thinking
[Heather Viniar] about what it was that i wanted totalk about on like my first podcast episode
[Heather Viniar] how i was introducing myself to people andi realize that like the first thing that
[Heather Viniar] comes out when people are like well’s yourlife experience like it’s usually something surrounding the
[Heather Viniar] eating sorter and like that’s not who iam or who i relate to anymore i
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] mean i know how to work with peopleand i know how to support people because
[Heather Viniar] of that experience but that’s just not likeit’s like i’ve been in recovery from it
[Heather Viniar] for like upwards of ten years so it’snot something that i am like challenged by
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] on a daily basis anymore um and alot of that like a lot of that
[Heather Viniar] healing and a lot of that process toget to the Heather Viniar that i am right
[Heather Viniar] now has is a result of the differentplaces that i’ve lived in like the initial
[Heather Viniar] move down to florida definitely had a hugeimpact on it from there i ended up
[Heather Viniar] i ended up going overseas and like havingthat level of independence and like living in
[Heather Viniar] israel and like getting reconnected with like myfamily’s israeli so getting reconnected with like my
[Heather Viniar] heritage um that definitely like it definitely gotme back to being more me than i
[Heather Viniar] was before and then i um and theni got i got back to the united
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] states from there and i ended up movingto houston and i’d had a yoga practice
[Heather Viniar] since i was in since i was intenth grade excuse me yeah since i was
[Nick McGowan] six [Heather Viniar] in tenth grade and i when i wasin houston i like found the studio that
[Heather Viniar] i ended up doing my training at andi went through like years of like really
[Heather Viniar] just deep diving into into well like selfdevelopment i like i guess like it was
[Heather Viniar] like yes it was yoga training and italso like a huge portion of it was
[Heather Viniar] self development so that got me closer tomyself as well and it was like the
[Heather Viniar] process of the process of like getting reconnectedto this portion of myself into this portion
[Heather Viniar] of myself into this portion of myself itallowed me to over time just get really
[Heather Viniar] deeply connected to to my spirit and tomy voice
[Nick McGowan] yeah it’s so interesting how all of thosethings have to happen to get you to
[Nick McGowan] a point where right now you could belike well the person i am now is
[Nick McGowan] because of all these things that have happenedi had a conversation with a client maybe
[Heather Viniar] no [Nick McGowan] about two hours ago where we were talkingabout like well what does it just take
[Nick McGowan] for some people to actually get this thingand say well what did it take you
[Nick McGowan] to get the idea of all of thishe was like wow took me blah blah
[Nick McGowan] blah blah and rattled off all that stuffand if you think of when you moved
[Nick McGowan] and all the things that had to happeneven the dumb little terrible times in between
[Nick McGowan] that all adds to lucent so but ifyou think of you as a younger person
[Heather Viniar] oh yeah totally [Nick McGowan] bumbling your way through and trying to selfdevelop things and like take info in it’s
[Nick McGowan] so clunky and just so awkward at timesyeah if you think like people are like
[Heather Viniar] what is your job [Nick McGowan] well if you could talk to your eighteenyear old self what would you do i
[Nick McGowan] think most people were like i’d punch themin the face or like kick their ass
[Nick McGowan] or whatever i’d probably look at them belike you’re at least you’re gonna go through
[Nick McGowan] some but you’re gonna be awkward as hellfor a bit too so are there any
[Nick McGowan] like times that come to mind where you’relike oh man i remember this bit of
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] season that was awkward but now do itdifferently or you know whatever
[Heather Viniar] yeah man okay so there’s a couple ofdifferent directions i could go i could go
[Heather Viniar] with that but like the direction that i’llgo with is
[Heather Viniar] up to i mean as recent as likethree four years ago if something happened like
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] someone was out of integrity at work orlike didn’t show up for their commit or
[Nick McGowan] good [Heather Viniar] like there were standards for one person werecompletely different than standards for another person or
[Heather Viniar] i mean the they’re like i i don’tknow if those are great examples but like
[Heather Viniar] my personal response even with like years ofself development under my belt like is that
[Nick McGowan] sure [Heather Viniar] like is that an appropriate term like undermy belt for like years of i don’t
[Nick McGowan] yeah sure i get that yeah [Heather Viniar] even wear about i don’t know why iuse that term but like but anyway with
[Heather Viniar] like years of experience with self development andlike being so connected with in so many
[Heather Viniar] different ways there’s like something within me wherelike i would like lose my personal voice
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] and i wouldn’t speak i like wouldn’t speakup from myself i was speaking i was
[Heather Viniar] like moving and breathing and speaking as likea representative of the organizations that i was
[Heather Viniar] leading or working for or [Nick McGowan] i thought you meant of you like theu n of yourself i’m a representation to
[Heather Viniar] um now no no no not a representationof myself like a representation or a representative
[Nick McGowan] myself it’s like wow that’s quite a fumask
[Heather Viniar] of those organizations so like i wasn’t fullyspeaking my truth i was like speaking from
[Nick McGowan] sure [Heather Viniar] the organization and so like there was likejargon that i would use and there were
[Nick McGowan] oh [Heather Viniar] like things that i would say that likeweren’t necessarily mine and so like that’s how
[Heather Viniar] i would handle things then and like themoment that i separated from the specific organizations
[Heather Viniar] that i’m that i’m like pinpointing in mybrain right now i actually like it was
[Heather Viniar] it was like a it was a roughroad yeah it was a rough road because
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] i went from being surrounded by all ofthese people to like moving back over to
[Heather Viniar] the east coast of florida which is wherewhich is where my family was and like
[Heather Viniar] where i knew that i was gonna belaunching my business from and where i wanted
[Heather Viniar] to be and though like i’d spent yearssurrounded by all of these people and the
[Heather Viniar] moment that i separated from those two organizationslike i lost all those people and so
[Nick McGowan] who [Heather Viniar] i got back to the east coast toflorida and i was like left with some
[Heather Viniar] like heavy emotions and heavy to deal withand like that process for me is what
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] got me connected with my voice like istarted to i started to like i’d had
[Heather Viniar] a meditation practice for like years but ilike really intentionally started to meditate in the
[Heather Viniar] mornings like i would pull an intention cardor an oracle card or something i’d meditate
[Heather Viniar] or journal on it i intentionally and likevery purposefully if something came up like i
[Heather Viniar] spoke about it like i didn’t keep itin i didn’t like try to process on
[Nick McGowan] hm [Heather Viniar] my own i just like called the trustedfew people that i that i knew i
[Heather Viniar] could call and i could just like blurtout whatever it was that i needed to
[Heather Viniar] blurt out because it was the practice ofme using my voice like my voice though
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] and so like there was that and likei i also um i started i started
[Heather Viniar] using and i know that this like mightcome across as like really hippie dep toed
[Heather Viniar] using essential oils and like intentionally using themnot just using them because i like the
[Heather Viniar] way they smell and so i like startedmaking my own essential oil blends with specific
[Heather Viniar] intentions and like the first one that iever created was one that was geared towards
[Heather Viniar] the throat shock because it like it liketo to support me in actually using my
[Nick McGowan] to speak yeah [Heather Viniar] voice and yeah i now sell those oilsso like they’re like they’re it’s like a
[Nick McGowan] what a beautiful thing [Heather Viniar] part of my business that was born trulyout of my own personal process so like
[Heather Viniar] long story short the way that i usedto handle something was like speaking as an
[Heather Viniar] representative of an organization or like speaking notfrom my true self to now doing nothing
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] other than speaking from my true self [Nick McGowan] so we probably just spend the rest ofthe episode going through something with all of
[Nick McGowan] this because for the most part the masksthat people wear and i think of those
[Heather Viniar] school [Nick McGowan] people that are very businessy like uh youknow we’ll circle back to this thing and
[Heather Viniar] oh my god i can’t stand that term [Nick McGowan] like that’s same same oh my god [Heather Viniar] i i i can’t or like what’s theother one so like there’s two that just
[Heather Viniar] really drive me bonkers let’s unpack that andlet’s circle back to it like those two
[Nick McGowan] okay yeah [Heather Viniar] i just can [Nick McGowan] the circle back one i don’t know yeahso some people i think just get into
[Heather Viniar] next [Nick McGowan] the habit of that stuff because they hearit so much it’s almost like when you’re
[Nick McGowan] a little kid and you hear your parentssay certain things thanks mom that’s maybe where
[Nick McGowan] i got this mouth from um but youknow really you you learn those sort of
[Nick McGowan] things and you start to say those you’reintegrated into that system you’re working with that
[Nick McGowan] company and you start saying those things becausethose other people are saying it just like
[Nick McGowan] the right like right what about this rightlike that sort of thing where people are
[Nick McGowan] saying that or there circle back or whathave you it’s so interesting when you can
[Heather Viniar] m [Nick McGowan] pull back from that and you realize likeoh shit i was wearing a mask as
[Nick McGowan] well and for the most part that’s notthat bad of a mask cause you’re just
[Nick McGowan] culturally trying to fit in socially trying tofit in but we all have some sort
[Nick McGowan] of mask on and the fact that youstarted to actually take that mask off set
[Nick McGowan] up a process to be able to talkto people and say i just need you
[Nick McGowan] to be here and listen because they’re gotto take this mask off and just stretch
[Nick McGowan] the muscle of talking and just getting outand doing it man and there’s a lot
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] that’s within that so how did you getto that point where you were like i
[Nick McGowan] have to set this up i have tolike what was the breaking point basically where
[Nick McGowan] you’re like fuck it i’ve had enough [Heather Viniar] bomb again you like mi drop buck they’vehad enough um yeah so i you know
[Heather Viniar] i i moved i moved back here andi realized that i like just didn’t i
[Heather Viniar] had kind of distanced myself from the overarchingyoga institute that i did a lot of
[Heather Viniar] my trainings from i was no longer involvedin those two local organizations and um and
[Heather Viniar] i got back here and i like literallylike i did not i had been away
[Heather Viniar] and so the friends that i had inthis area that were in this area like
[Heather Viniar] i wasn’t i wasn’t close with any longerso i had to like kind of i
[Heather Viniar] felt like i was like re becoming friendswith them all over again and i i
[Heather Viniar] like i didn’t have anyone like i ijust i didn’t the people that i was
[Heather Viniar] like so closely surrounded by like i literallylike i just did not i didn’t have
[Heather Viniar] them and um and the people that ithe people that i’ve had in my life
[Heather Viniar] for like years who have been with mefor like decades now at this point like
[Heather Viniar] none of them are down here like they’rein new york they’re in minneapolis they’re in
[Heather Viniar] wherever they are yeah new york and minneapolisare the two that are sticking out for
[Heather Viniar] me right now but uh they like they’reclearly not here so it’s not like i
[Heather Viniar] could just like go and meet up withthem or go and hang out with them
[Heather Viniar] and i think that that process not ithink i know that that process of like
[Heather Viniar] having having to just sit with myself yeahhaving to just sit with myself like i
[Nick McGowan] hey [Heather Viniar] they there was no other i mean ii had my family of course like and
[Heather Viniar] so i spent time with my brother andsister in law my niece my nephew hadn’t
[Heather Viniar] been born at that point in time yetbut um he’s roaring and ready to go
[Heather Viniar] now and like my and my parents soi i spend time with them but aside
[Heather Viniar] from that for a little while like ijust i i wasn’t spending time with anyone
[Heather Viniar] else i really just took the time tolike get the connection with myself because without
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] actually being connect like i just felt sodisconnected and i had already like launched like
[Heather Viniar] an earlier version of my business and umlike my of the coaching and wellness business
[Heather Viniar] and i like i knew that i hadsomething to offer but i also knew that
[Heather Viniar] at that point in time like i wasn’table to offer it the way that i
[Heather Viniar] wanted to because like i still wasn’t likespeaking freely and speaking truly and just like
[Heather Viniar] that was just that was just part ofmy part of my journey i think i
[Heather Viniar] got so used to over the years likenot saying anything and not saying anything and
[Heather Viniar] not saying anything that um yeah i hadto learn how to say something again and
[Heather Viniar] so i started i mean i started doingthe things that i mentioned before like coupled
[Heather Viniar] with really deep mindset work but i havethis one friend in particular and uh and
[Heather Viniar] she’s like we’ve been like without actually usingthe term accountability buddies like for for upwards
[Heather Viniar] of a decade now in different areas oflife like we’ve definitely been that for each
[Heather Viniar] other and so at that point in timeyeah i started like book ending things with
[Heather Viniar] conversations with her so i’d be like i’mgoing to do this and then i’d go
[Heather Viniar] and do it and then like i’d callher after and so like you could call
[Heather Viniar] it check ins you could call it bookending something but it was like that level
[Heather Viniar] of being able to like process beforehand goand do what i had to do process
[Heather Viniar] afterwards or even if there wasn’t any processit was just like still the practice of
[Heather Viniar] using my voice and like speaking up andthat it was like hugely hugely helpful and
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] hugely supportive [Nick McGowan] yeah you think of those little steps thatyou do that you can only look back
[Nick McGowan] at and go shit that helped me butit was more of a subconscious thing because
[Nick McGowan] you’re like i need to do this andi i just need to talk to you
[Nick McGowan] about this thing and let you know andi’ll call you back when i’m done because
[Nick McGowan] you’re setting up that process where you knowi talk to different people at times they’re
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] like man i want to do these thingsi want to have a better life but
[Nick McGowan] i don’t want to do these things ori don’t want to do that and i
[Nick McGowan] think we find ourselves in the space whereit’s kind of a gray area where you
[Nick McGowan] have to figure out what you don’t wantand what you actually want but you need
[Nick McGowan] to figure out what’s the thing that youdon’t want because you don’t want to and
[Nick McGowan] do it or you don’t want coz itdoesn’t align with you
[Heather Viniar] wolves so like that’s like that’s the wholeother piece for it like there’s i speak
[Heather Viniar] with clients and i have clients who arelike yeah i want i want like x
[Heather Viniar] y z but like it’s never going tohappen so like i’m just i just don’t
[Heather Viniar] do anything and i’m like yeah well withthat mindset it’s never gonna happen because you’re
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] never gonna do it and like it’s notlike you’re gonna like take the action once
[Heather Viniar] and then all of a sudden magically thathabit has been formed like na it doesn’t
[Heather Viniar] work that way like meaningful things take hardwork and like it gets nosy and like
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] those like the messiness of the process islike i mean for me at least it’s
[Heather Viniar] what makes it all worth it and i’mnot saying like go get super fricking sloppy
[Heather Viniar] in your life let everything go and thenall of a sudden one day you’re gonna
[Heather Viniar] look at it and be like man iwas a slave and that was great no
[Heather Viniar] that’s sa to do that like go throughthe work and when i say the work
[Heather Viniar] i mean like go through the personal journeygo through the things that you need to
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] process that you need to go through inorder to like come out the other side
[Heather Viniar] the newest u that you can bay andright i mean there’s no better way to
[Nick McGowan] the us u that you can be perfectno no i mean shit alright ladies and
[Heather Viniar] say it [Nick McGowan] gentlemen it’s been real thank you for yourtime oh man yeah exactly man there’s um
[Heather Viniar] my top [Nick McGowan] it it can be interesting because as yougo through being a little kid and then
[Nick McGowan] in school like grade school middle school andhigh school like you test out what’s cool
[Nick McGowan] and what’s not cool you try different thingsand then as you get a little older
[Nick McGowan] you start to be like yeah fuck iti don’t i don’t need people around me
[Nick McGowan] whatever and then you really figure out likeman i really wanted everybody around me because
[Nick McGowan] i didn’t know what the i wanted orwhat i needed but as you can get
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] really real with you and you can figureout what you want and what you don’t
[Nick McGowan] want like what piss you or what doesn’tit’s the check ins those little check ins
[Nick McGowan] do you agree with that like you justgot to check in with yourself and some
[Heather Viniar] yes [Nick McGowan] people don’t [Heather Viniar] oh dera check in with yourself and checkin with the people around you too like
[Nick McGowan] yeah um [Heather Viniar] google around you need to know that youcare and like most of the time i
[Heather Viniar] find that when i randomly am just likehey i just wanted to check in how
[Heather Viniar] are you like something comes out like theyneeded to be checked and on and so
[Nick McGowan] oh [Heather Viniar] like when you think about that and likeyeah when you think about that like you
[Heather Viniar] need to be checked in on two becauselike if you actually sit back and ask
[Heather Viniar] yourself like hey Heather Viniar or like hey Nick McGowanhow am i doing today like i’m sure
[Nick McGowan] hm oh yeah yeah it usually makes melaugh too weird that goes through my mind
[Heather Viniar] something’s gonna come up [Nick McGowan] where you’re like you’re alright dude but whatthe is that smell i’m like damn the
[Nick McGowan] trash need to go out whatever or likea shit i left the coffee on those
[Nick McGowan] little ch those little check ins are powerfulabsolutely powerful and okay
[Heather Viniar] i no go for it yeah i ami ta i taught a class this morning
[Heather Viniar] and this woman like walked into she walkedin she like put her put her mat
[Heather Viniar] down and she’s like holding her head likegoing like this and i looked over and
[Nick McGowan] oh [Heather Viniar] i was like hey how are you doinglike you look like like is it is
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] it gonna fall off you look like you’reholding on for dear life and she started
[Heather Viniar] laughing and she said so many things otherso many things are going on up in
[Nick McGowan] then [Heather Viniar] there and like it’s one of those thingslike just like check in with yourself because
[Heather Viniar] you may not realize you might not realizelike the pain that you’re feeling in your
[Heather Viniar] shoulders and your upper back from like thestress that you’re carrying there if you actually
[Heather Viniar] check in and are like why am iso tired like what’s like what’s going on
[Heather Viniar] or like why does why why am ifeeling why am i feeling tension in my
[Heather Viniar] upper back like oh i didn’t even realizethis what i’ve been thinking about like our
[Nick McGowan] hm [Heather Viniar] bodies have really subtle ways but like reallyclear ways of telling us what’s going on
[Nick McGowan] yeah oh man it’s such a great thingyou gotta listen to your body don’t always
[Nick McGowan] have to listen to your subconscious mind becausethat can sometimes push out random things you’re
[Nick McGowan] like i don’t know why these random thingspopped up and try to decipher it but
[Nick McGowan] i think the physiological side along with thespiritual and the emotional side can all tie
[Nick McGowan] together like when you feel led to godo something and you’re like oh everything in
[Nick McGowan] me like pulling my rib cage gets myheart my mind excited and of that but
[Nick McGowan] we can’t have that unless you actually askbut i i think we need to be
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] aware to do the thing like think aboutit if you had no idea that you
[Nick McGowan] had to figure out how to breathe youprobably wouldn’t but thank god we don’t have
[Nick McGowan] to worry about that and we just naturallybreathe just breathe it all it is but
[Heather Viniar] just breathe Nick McGowan all you have to dois breathe just breathe
[Nick McGowan] those there are triggers for each of usand i’m sure my triggers are different than
[Nick McGowan] yours but i’ve realized with myself that mynatural state is positive joyous and usually super
[Nick McGowan] type a and like over the top becausei’m just excited about life but if i’m
[Nick McGowan] not there and i feel like weird andsnarky i know that i’m from philly so
[Nick McGowan] i can naturally be an asshole at timesbut that’s not the native state that i
[Nick McGowan] tend to live in so that’s kind ofa yeah it’s not where i’m normally at
[Heather Viniar] it’s not your homeostasis screen [Nick McGowan] so i’m like all right dude you’re beingan aso right now what’s wrong and i’ll
[Nick McGowan] kind of pull the emotions in almost likeit’s in a room i’m like all right
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] ass get in here what’s your problem whoare you they’re like oh i’m whatever i’m
[Nick McGowan] nostalgia or i’m fear or whatever and ikind of walk through it but i think
[Nick McGowan] you gotta you gotta figure out what yourtriggers are and do you have the same
[Heather Viniar] well [Nick McGowan] conversations with your clients [Heather Viniar] oh my god yeah one hundred percent likea lot of so and i don’t want
[Heather Viniar] to say a lot a lot of whati do is about bodies sensations but like
[Heather Viniar] no it all comes back to body sensationsit’s like oh like you have that like
[Nick McGowan] hm [Heather Viniar] feeling in your gut like okay well it’sthe thought that’s surrounding it like if you
[Heather Viniar] are debating whether or not you should godo something and you have this like not
[Heather Viniar] good sensation you should probably not do itif you are debating whether or not you
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] should show up for something that you committedto showing up to and like the feeling
[Heather Viniar] is like yeah go you should probably golike your body is telling you to go
[Heather Viniar] um it’s it it all i mean itit all comes back to it all comes
[Heather Viniar] it all comes back to the sensations orlike the triggers for all intensive purposes
[Nick McGowan] sure it’s almost uh we can kind ofmake it mechanical in a sense like when
[Nick McGowan] this thing happens this other thing will happenso that we can look for those triggers
[Nick McGowan] and go oh well when that happens thishappens which is kind of almost like habit
[Nick McGowan] stacking man we’re getting to a deep nervedlevel at this point but if you can
[Heather Viniar] yes [Nick McGowan] think through what those things are and understandthat you’re you’re typically not that state then
[Nick McGowan] you can be aware of whatever the nextthing is so you’ve been through a lot
[Nick McGowan] of stuff and the fact that you wentthrough anorexia into being a coach and helping
[Nick McGowan] people health wise and all of that iknow that you had said earlier like there
[Nick McGowan] are people that talk to me about thisthing but that’s not who i am and
[Nick McGowan] there’s a balance there for us as andcoaches where we are still growing i still
[Nick McGowan] up daily whether you’re a client or you’rejust the audience listening know it i fuck
[Heather Viniar] all [Nick McGowan] up daily but it’s the learning from itso how do you balance your mindset of
[Heather Viniar] right [Nick McGowan] like ah i’m not there anymore but thosepeople that are there are still looking to
[Nick McGowan] you for help [Heather Viniar] yeah well okay so i think the distinctionthe distinction with that for me in terms
[Heather Viniar] of like the eating sorter specifically is likethat’s not something that i like work through
[Heather Viniar] on my own on a daily basis anymoreand the reason that that that’s the case
[Heather Viniar] is because of all of the work andall of the habits and all of the
[Heather Viniar] things that i’ve implemented into my life overthe years and so like i’m very much
[Heather Viniar] so able to like freely talk with someoneabout those type of things and support someone
[Heather Viniar] who’s like challenged with just that without havingit be like oh my god i’m going
[Heather Viniar] back to that point of my life orlike that’s that’s not what it brings up
[Heather Viniar] at all it actually brings up a lotof joy for me because i have the
[Heather Viniar] ability to support someone and to show themlike look if you saw
[Heather Viniar] i was twenty three when i got intorecovery from my eating shorter so if you
[Heather Viniar] saw Heather Viniar between the ages of like twelveand twenty three like like around there you’d
[Heather Viniar] see a very different human than the Heather Viniarthat you see right now and like the
[Heather Viniar] fact that i’m still alive and here totell that tale goes to show you that
[Heather Viniar] like it’s not permanent and like if youare committed to making a shift in your
[Heather Viniar] life to better in your life and tolike healing yourself because it’s never about the
[Heather Viniar] food itself like there’s always something else that’sthere if you’re committed and actually want to
[Heather Viniar] he all that like you can it’s notjust something that i was able to miraculously
[Heather Viniar] do and like was not that miraculous ofa thing like it was really not pretty
[Heather Viniar] it was really really not a pretty journeybut yeah no so i it’s not it’s
[Heather Viniar] not that i like don’t want to havethose conversations it’s more so like when i
[Heather Viniar] think about my experience like in order tospeak to someone as like who i am
[Heather Viniar] right here like telling them my experience fromeleven years ago isn’t as authentic as telling
[Nick McGowan] sure yeah [Heather Viniar] someone my experience from like yesterday it’s likeit’s more present and it’s more relatable and
[Heather Viniar] i could still be relatable talking about thatbut i mean it’s upwards of a decade
[Heather Viniar] ago like i was you know the differencefrom when you were in your in your
[Heather Viniar] early twenties versus when you’re in your thirtiesyour mid thirties or like you
[Nick McGowan] shit yeah shit let alone a year yeaha lot of stuff can happen and especially
[Nick McGowan] when you’re on a growth path and you’regrowing i mean that’s a great answer to
[Nick McGowan] the question but the fact that you’re ableto look at all of it and understand
[Nick McGowan] i understand a bit more about your heartnow that it’s more about the how do
[Nick McGowan] we actually get to the heart of thematter and help the person wherever they’re at
[Nick McGowan] whatever it’s about [Heather Viniar] yeah yeah and and i think that thatreally that really pinpoints exactly how i work
[Heather Viniar] with clients like i know different cli differentcoaches and like different life coaches different health
[Heather Viniar] coaches different different people work with their clientsdifferently i don’t have a specific program i
[Heather Viniar] just don’t because i don’t want to putsomeone into a box and like what i
[Nick McGowan] h [Heather Viniar] realized from the first couple of clients thati had was like the program that i
[Heather Viniar] created it didn’t fit any of them butthey were still like they were still drawn
[Heather Viniar] and like still gravitated towards working with meand so like all i did i met
[Heather Viniar] them on a daily basis exactly as theyare and that so like you saying that
[Heather Viniar] like it’s the heart of the matter justlike get to the heart of what it
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] is like that’s that’s how i work withpeople and it’s and it’s really like for
[Heather Viniar] me it’s for me it’s really rewarding imean do i have things from like the
[Heather Viniar] program that i created do i have thingsthat i like end up doing with clients
[Heather Viniar] anyway absolutely and have there been clients wherelike yeah i do like just go through
[Heather Viniar] that pro like does it fit them absolutelyone hundred percent but it’s like just like
[Heather Viniar] i’m just like like i’m special and havemy own needs on a daily basis they’re
[Heather Viniar] all special and they have their like theyall everyone has their own unique needs as
[Nick McGowan] yeah yeah great point it’s funny how wecan sometimes as coaches want to just make
[Heather Viniar] well [Nick McGowan] this thing go oh this is it everybodyshould just go through this thing and there
[Nick McGowan] are a ton of people that push thatas like the coaches that coach people uh
[Nick McGowan] they’re like make this one thing set itup and that’s the only thing you do
[Heather Viniar] that [Nick McGowan] and i was kind of in the sameboat like i’ve got an eight week program
[Nick McGowan] i’ve had people go through it and that’sthere for the people it fits for but
[Nick McGowan] you know that when you have that initiali call it a clarity session that first
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] call that discovery call you can know likeone am i gonna be the right fit
[Nick McGowan] to even help this person and two doesthe program actually make sense or do we
[Heather Viniar] right [Nick McGowan] need to do something slightly different to getyou the actual results i think it’s almost
[Nick McGowan] rude for somebody to be like i hearwhat you’re saying so here’s this box i’m
[Nick McGowan] gonna need to sit your ass in likefuck what so you didn’t hear anything i
[Nick McGowan] said okay [Heather Viniar] i hear exactly what you’re saying so here’sthis box i love that it’s uh yeah
[Heather Viniar] and you know what there are the andi and like you know there’s so many
[Heather Viniar] people in the world and there’s so manypeople who are looking for support in the
[Heather Viniar] world that like i’m not going to bethe right person for everyone and like maybe
[Nick McGowan] no [Heather Viniar] one of those other coaches will be theright person for that individual and like that’s
[Heather Viniar] great and the people who are like groutwho gravitate to and who like feel inclined
[Heather Viniar] to work with me like they work mewith me for the reason of like i
[Heather Viniar] am who i am y [Nick McGowan] you’re you i mean that’s the authenticity ofit there’s not just with coaching but if
[Nick McGowan] you think of it’s easy for me tothink of sales ’cause i’ve been in sales
[Nick McGowan] forever but there’s so many people that justsell people they sell sell sell shit and
[Nick McGowan] they’re just forcing people to buy things orthey’re going after that hunt instead of just
[Nick McGowan] trying to help people i had a conversationwith a couple of my team members recently
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] where they’re like hey we have this bigthing big conversation new division of this company
[Nick McGowan] we’re going to work with and we’re goingto put together this presentation and do all
[Nick McGowan] the i was like do we know whatthey want to talk about oh they wanna
[Nick McGowan] know what we do is like do youknow what their problem is like no but
[Nick McGowan] we’re talk about all these things mi that’stotally cool i get that let’s see if
[Nick McGowan] we cover those things and let’s find outwhat her problems were i i loved the
[Nick McGowan] team but that was a prime moment ofus going at the end of the call
[Nick McGowan] like we use the presentation once to pullup a link to then show something and
[Nick McGowan] actually walk through it other than that itwas all based on conversation you gotta be
[Nick McGowan] able to actually people with people think aboutthe people that can’t people with people they
[Nick McGowan] can’t talk to people um those people iguess don’t have podcasts whatever so on that
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] note you’ve got a podcast coming up whydon’t you tell us a little bit about
[Nick McGowan] that [Heather Viniar] yeah i do i have a podcast comingup and i’m super super excited about it
[Heather Viniar] i’ve had this podcast in the back ofmy mind for like you know like a
[Heather Viniar] couple of years at this point and itjust it for me i i didn’t necessarily
[Heather Viniar] feel like it was the right time todo it and i don’t know if there’s
[Heather Viniar] ever a right time or a wrong timebut uh i was i was talking with
[Heather Viniar] someone a couple of weeks ago and shewas like you know you’ve been talking about
[Heather Viniar] this podcast forever like when are when areyou gonna do it like when’s it coming
[Heather Viniar] and i was like you know now it’scoming now and so um and so really
[Heather Viniar] what my podcast is geared towards is [Heather Viniar] you know had i’m gonna say it ina really consc way ok so it’s the
[Heather Viniar] name of the podcast is the ignite yoursunshine podcast my business is ignite your sunshine
[Heather Viniar] and i mean if you all could seethe look on my face like you’d get
[Nick McGowan] she’s beaming yeah [Heather Viniar] why my businesses ignite your son job iliterally like through the journey of what we’ve
[Heather Viniar] been talking about like i lit up mysunshine or like i i re lit the
[Heather Viniar] sunshine within me so like yeah so it’sthe ignite your sunshine podcast and really what
[Heather Viniar] that podcast is going to be geared towardsor what it is geared towards is creating
[Heather Viniar] mindset shifts discovering your purpose integrating your mindbody and soul and taking ownership of your
[Heather Viniar] life and so we’ll do that through talkingabout self love talking about integrative wellness talking
[Heather Viniar] about mindfulness talking about visions and goals likegoal setting is one of my favorite favorite
[Heather Viniar] things in the world at yeah and iknow that it can be like goal setting
[Heather Viniar] can be something that’s really really like outthere for some people and for me it’s
[Heather Viniar] like no stop setting goals that are likehuge u two two two two two to
[Heather Viniar] the point where you’re so afraid of themthat like you’re not gonna do anything because
[Heather Viniar] there’s so much beer there like set thesmall goals and then accomplish it and then
[Heather Viniar] set another one and accomplish that one likedo this in like do it in a
[Heather Viniar] a really a really like step by stepbasis so that you’re like creating the creating
[Heather Viniar] the staircase to actually like accomplish what itis that you want to accomplish yeah and
[Heather Viniar] so it’s going to i have scheduled itto release weekly on wednesdays walus wednesdays and
[Nick McGowan] nice [Heather Viniar] um yeah and i’m i’m super stoked forit i have my first couple of episodes
[Heather Viniar] recorded already the first one will officially dropnext week on wednesday of course and uh
[Nick McGowan] oh [Heather Viniar] yeah it’s i mean getting that so iactually i had the i had the realization
[Heather Viniar] this morning because i officially i had likefiled everything and then yesterday i got like
[Heather Viniar] the congratulatory email from apple podcasts and yeahand so i i this morning i decided
[Nick McGowan] yeah [Heather Viniar] to like just go and see if icould pull it up on spotify and so
[Heather Viniar] i typed in ignite your sunshine and likei saw myself on spotify
[Nick McGowan] such an awesome feeling isn’t it [Heather Viniar] and yeah and i like i clicked itand i listened to the trailer and i
[Heather Viniar] was like how fuck yeah i’m on spotifythat’s me
[Nick McGowan] that’s so good man it it’s um that’sa big step even just to do the
[Nick McGowan] damn thing the amount of times i’ve heardthat story and the amount of times i’ve
[Nick McGowan] said my version of that story of mani thought about doing a podcast for years
[Nick McGowan] my version includes my cousin tom who wouldsend me a text just with the word
[Nick McGowan] podcast and it’ll be like off dude igot it you know timing wasn’t right it
[Nick McGowan] sounds like this is kind of a thingthat most people go through where it just
[Nick McGowan] kind of percolates in the back and you’relike hm there’s something here and that’s sort
[Nick McGowan] of like our calling almost not just thepodcast i mean podcast maybe our calling but
[Heather Viniar] yeah [Nick McGowan] the innate to help people this is abeautiful medium to be able to do it
[Nick McGowan] so the fact that you’ve at least stoodthe damn thing up is what nine out
[Nick McGowan] of ten people wouldn’t do so well donewith that there are different milestones you’ll go
[Nick McGowan] through i’ve passed the ten episode milestone wherepeople said that’s crazy because they’re like geez
[Nick McGowan] so many people don’t even get to tenbut i’ve talked to people that are in
[Nick McGowan] like the thousands yeah well i think we’rekind of in the same boat like if
[Heather Viniar] really [Nick McGowan] you’re gonna do it you’re going to doit so you’re gonna all asked the whole
[Heather Viniar] oh yeah i don’t have as anything iput my pull as in yeah it’s only
[Nick McGowan] last needs to be in that [Heather Viniar] half acid put your full ass in [Nick McGowan] man so i’m i’m really excited [Heather Viniar] and it doesn’t have to be like ac but like let it be a good
[Heather Viniar] ass [Nick McGowan] and that’s where the health and wellness comesinto play ladies and gentlemen do your squats
[Nick McGowan] put your whole ass in it oh manwell i’m excited that you got your show
[Nick McGowan] coming out i’m excited to hear about theshow at some point if you’d like me
[Nick McGowan] to have be on the show i’d loveto if not totally understand
[Heather Viniar] oh my god that would be like havingeverything come full circle that would be so
[Nick McGowan] yeah well i’m in for it you letme know um this has been a pleasure
[Heather Viniar] fun [Nick McGowan] chatting with you i know we could justtalk more and more and more and we’ll
[Nick McGowan] probably have you back and we’ll just doa bunch of uh show swaps here but
[Nick McGowan] why don’t you tell people where people canfind you
[Heather Viniar] yes [Heather Viniar] okay so super super simple you can findme at ignite your sunshine on instagram you
[Heather Viniar] can find me at ignite your sunshine dotcom website and if you’d like to reach
[Heather Viniar] out via email you can find me athello at ignite sunshine com and if you
[Heather Viniar] want to listen to my podcast you canjust go to wherever you listen to your
[Heather Viniar] podcasts apple podcasts spotify i’m sure there’s avariety of other platforms and you can just
[Heather Viniar] type in the ignite your sunshine podcast solike super simple super basic and freaking fabulous
[Heather Viniar] um yeah so that’s all my business stuffif you want to connect with me just
[Heather Viniar] like as a human my name is Heather Viniarviner my personal instagram which is public is
[Heather Viniar] hea they’ve been here again really simple [Nick McGowan] perfect well Heather Viniar it’s been a pleasure tohave you on thank you for being here
[Heather Viniar] thank you so much for having me