Episode summary: Steve is the founder of “The Manly Club” and “The Powerhouse Men Brotherhood”.
We hear from Steve about his background and what he believes makes a “Powerhouse Man” and he shares what has led to creating the brotherhood and what he’s learned leading a group of 13K+ men and now building something even greater.
Guest Name & Bio: Steve Miller is the founder of both The Manly Club and The Powerhouse Men Brotherhood.
Before devoting his work full-time to The Manly Club, Steve served as a start-up consultant and investor as well as a freelance sales trainer.
Steve aspires to continue his journey toward becoming a writer and publisher of men’s self-betterment courses and books.
Steve is an avid homesteader and woodworker who has a serious love for classic American muscle cars.
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[Music]
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hello and welcome to the mindset and self mastery show i’m your host nick
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mcgowan and on this show my guests and i unpack the stories that shape us and the
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lives we lead on our path to self-mastery today on the show we have steve miller steve is the founder of the
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manly club and the powerhouse men brotherhood so we’re going to talk about some manly things on this episode but
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ladies don’t turn this off just yet we’re going to talk about some topics that both men and women work through
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so we’re going to hear from steve about his background and what he believes makes up a powerhouse man and he shares
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what has led to creating the brotherhood and what he’s learned leading a group of over 13 000 men for five years and now
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building something even greater so let’s not wait any longer let the games begin
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hello steve welcome to the show how you doing man how are you nick i am great and i’m so
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excited that you’re on this show today it’s been a long time coming um i’ve been a part of the facebook group that
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you have and i’m gonna be a little ambiguous right now but been part of that facebook group for a handful of
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years uh and i know that we’re building something big in the group outside of that as well but dude i’m so glad that
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you’re here man um why don’t you kick us off steve and tell us what you do for a living and one
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thing that most people don’t know about you thanks nick thanks for having me on i’m super excited about being here
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um i you know it’s uh i don’t really do um the traditional work anymore you know
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i used to be a silicon valley guy and now i’ve kind of
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floated away from all that you know i think that if you talk to a lot of
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former silicon valley guys they’ll say you know i took the money and i ran you know
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they just you know and it’s really it’s really a kind of a it seems almost like a temporary
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lifestyle for a lot of people right it’s like well i’m gonna do this for now i’m gonna do all the grinding and all the hustling and i’m gonna do the
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hour work days for now and you kind of know in the back your mind is at some point you’re gonna
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you know you’re gonna ride off into the sunset right you’re gonna and you’re gonna leave and you’re gonna find a nice
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quiet place to live out the rest of your years and that’s kind of that’s kind of what i did i still do some of the stuff
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um i still you know collaborate on a lot of projects but i’ve been very fortunate to not have
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to um any longer worry about um you know the job
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and uh it’s it’s a good feeling you know we’re up here in oregon now we moved up um about eight or nine years
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ago and i’m just enjoying life up here and um
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i do like like i said i do some sales and marketing stuff um a lot of a lot of
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what happens to um to people who leave that lifestyle from silicon valley
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is they keep a lot of their connections and then um these um temporary assignments
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just kind of come their way and they help out a lot of friends you know they’ll do some short-term
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projects with people and um that’s really cool you can kind of have you know some of that still you know some of
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that excitement still and then at the same time you can stay you know away from
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that whole scene which is yeah it’s great for some people but then real like i said it’s kind of a it’s kind of a
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short-term thing you know there’s some people who can withstand it you know for 10 15 20 years and other people you know
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like me it’s just like wow the whole time practically i was saying oh man gotta get away from this um
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so um something that people don’t know about me i think that people
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um think that i’m a coach and um i’m not
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i’m not a coach i i have people you know through you know we mentioned the manly club um you know i’ve been running the
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matter club now for over five years we just had our five year anniversary and over the years
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um just being engaged online and talking to men um it’s just assumed that you know
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you’re a coach so i get i still to this day get messages you know dms from people
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saying um you know hey um you know can’t can i hire you it’s like
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no no you can’t hire me um there’s nothing to hire um and then really what i do is i kind
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of you know i kind of steer people towards the coaches that i do know and i work with a lot of coaches and um so i
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think it’s a it’s a common thing but that people misunderstand but i guess that’s it i guess that’s my answers you
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know i’m not a coach nothing against coaching i think i probably would love it if if i ever got
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into it um i think that um it’s a great thing that people do is you
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know they get you know they get involved at that level and you know there’s there’s a lot of coaching that’s
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happening that is just life-changing stuff you know so i respect it and i work with
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these guys but i just don’t do it it makes sense why people would ask you are you a coach because the manly club
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on facebook is god what close to 14 000 men at this point so
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to think of the owner of that group well he must do something that has to do
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with coaching or something of this sort it’s funny i never really thought about that and i’m a coach
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but i’m sure there are people that just hop in they have no idea who you are or they see you and go oh my gosh i wonder
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if he can help because he set this thing up and dude i gotta be honest the group that you set up
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is a massive group and there’s a lot of engagement but i know one of the big things that we’re
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gonna get into and you know what five minutes into the show we may as well just get into the damn thing now
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so steve tell us about the powerhouse men’s brotherhood that spun off of the manly club and give us a little background of
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that like where’d the idea come from the name um of the powerhouse man brotherhood
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came from my past you know i’ve been around a lot of men um i’m from back
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east i’m from brook born and raised in brooklyn and a lot of the men around me
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you know my dad had seven brothers um my mom had brothers a lot of the
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people around me were these um larger than life figures you know these
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these men who just came into a room and they just had presents
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and i always considered them to be powerhouse men you know they had
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they had it all together you know they were dialed in with their family
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they were dialed in with their careers they were dialed in in every aspect of the word they were just
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squared away men and i always viewed them as these powerful men and i think a lot of people
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question the name powerhouse man because it sounds like we’re promoting some
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type of power over other people and the reality is that powerhouse men um hold
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power over themselves that’s their objective right they want to be totally they want to be in total control over
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their own personal life and so that’s where the name came from the idea came
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from um the fact that in the manly club it’s really kind of superficial stuff
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we cover we do cover a lot of important things but it’s more kind of like a
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place for men to hang out and talk about man stuff you know the manly club you know topics come up some of them are
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really important some of them are um dangerous um you know we get guys who
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are who are struggling with suicide and you know and then we try to steer those those men to the right resources of
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course but um the manly club is very difficult being on facebook it’s very difficult
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to engage at the level that i wanted to engage
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with men and i could see over five years i could see that there was a missing element to this
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right there was something that the manly club was not providing and i could see
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the conversations you know men would come in and they would stop start talking about some serious stuff some heavy duty um
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life stuff and i just didn’t feel like the
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interface was capable of sustaining um good conversations first of all facebook
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throttles a lot of stuff right they don’t really allow the reach so you’re not really getting a lot of men seeing
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the more most important posts and then the conversations you know it’s just kind of like this long stream right
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and it’s kind of a lot of reading you know it’s kind of a you know men don’t really want to read through all of
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the stuff and then you get a lot of redundant posts right and so the interface itself was kind of a hindrance
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so um i knew that we needed to do something else to to create a different environment so we
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spun off on the powerhouse men brotherhood from that based on need and
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then um we had at the beginning we had um a lot
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of focus on the things that we thought the brotherhood should be and then we
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started listening to men and understanding that the brotherhood really needs to be a place that isn’t so
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much built on what we think it should be it should be built on what they think it
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should be and so we started listening to more and more men and they were saying hey i really want this and this and
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we just started plugging away and putting pieces of it together and now we have something that is building into a
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pretty um dynamic place for men to go
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and to um to find some really good solutions i think you know some men just
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don’t they just all they really want is friendship they want camaraderie
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other men are going through trauma you know they want they want help with something and they want um
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some men are looking for purpose and meaning in their life which is i think a big part of the brotherhood you know
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where uh purpose and meaning i think we we all kind of struggle with that at some point you know we all kind of hit
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that patch in our life where we’re like hey you know i’m doing all the things
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you know i got the i got the schooling done you know i got the job
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i got the family i got the investment account got the cars got the vacations
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uh why do i feel empty you know and you know and that that’s a very real
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question that men ask themselves but then what do you do you know once
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you hit that point what do you do where do you go you know you can talk to your friends but
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you know your friends who you who you have around you some people are fortunate to have a lot of friends
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around them and this can be a really good resource and then other men’s just or other men are just completely disconnected right they’re they’re
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loners maybe un intentionally you know or maybe
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um it’s because of where they live but it’s very difficult to find men to talk to
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and be a little vulnerable and talk about these things it’s like hey you know i feel kind of
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i feel kind of lost i don’t really know where i am in life it’s like i’ve done so much and um i thought it would feel
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different you know yeah and so we’re trying to create that kind of environment so basically what that is is you know so
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you have the spectrum right you have somebody coming in with the most basic of needs right which
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is hey i just want to find some men to hang out and talk to you and then all the way across the whole spectrum um to
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men who need a lot of help we’re bringing on some men with you know some of these um
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some of these experts if you will that we’re creating um teams
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uh with you know these these these leaders are experts in what they do and so
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we’re trying to cover a lot of ground but at the same time we also want
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a place where men feel very very comfortable such a it’s a sad thing
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almost to think about how many men are out there and i’m sure they’re women too
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but i i think of the men that are out there that are just hurting and don’t know
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what to say or how to say or what to do about it and then if they turn to somebody
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it’s almost like they get bitched out by a friend because they’re like hey man i don’t feel good about this thing or this
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is not right or whatever and that friend’s like well just put some dirt on it that doesn’t really make any sense
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everybody but think about how many shitty people and i say shitty people in the sense that they’re just hurting as
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well and they just spew back some sort of negativity typically that’s from a
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fear state where they’re like i don’t want to hear it because i got my own that i don’t even want to think about can we just sit here and continue
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to drink at this bar you know and now that it gets bars or nothing but at the same time if that’s
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where they’re just focusing and just going through that i think that’s a huge a huge uh talking point that we could
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get into is just the idea of men being able to actually open up and have other men that can
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respect the fact that they opened up and they talked about things and then there’s the power of technology i mean
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we’re doing this podcast and i’m in florida you’re in oregon you know the technology allows us to
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talk from wherever we are and i know that we have a handful of people at least that i’m aware of that are already
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part of the powerhouse men brotherhood that are in semi-remote parts of the country
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where they’re probably in that spot where they’re like well i don’t want to join a kickball league down at the ymca
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and uh i don’t want to drive 10 miles to go sit at a pub
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to hopefully maybe make a friend because that’s a lot of effort a lot of work and a lot of excuses
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one of the other bigger hindrances in this is that we have men who are um holding back
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even if they have access to resources like other men around them um is they’re too
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embarrassed or they’re too um you know you don’t want to somebody who you are
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engaging with all the time and you have kind of like this peer group set up um you don’t want to reveal
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something you know and then face that man in the future because you feel squirmish about
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um your vulnerability and that’s a very real concern i mean you know you can criticize it and say well you know just
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you know uh suck it up buttercup and you could you could tell those
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men well to just to do it anyway or or you know you can convince them that well if you open up and you show
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vulnerability they will too all that really doesn’t translate into real life stuff right so if you have a place
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that you can go to and these men and that’s one i think that’s one of the benefits of having an online community
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just in general is that you’re engaging with them you’re friends with them and
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you’re getting the camaraderie but you also have that space you know and
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and i think that that’s part of what men need i know that early on that was one
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of the surprising parts of the manly club when i first started it was that i i liked that part of it you know i liked
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i liked that aspect of it and um you know vulnerability is one of those things
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that um you know you could talk all day about it but a lot of men have different opinions about it right vulnerability
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shows weakness right and okay yeah
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so so what are you are you gonna pretend that you don’t have moments of
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real weakness it’s like hey we all do right we all we all have those moments but as soon as we see other men
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right you see other men who are maybe a man who you look up to and you respect
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and admire right high character men right you look at them and it’s like hey they’re being vulnerable right they’re
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talking about some of this difficult stuff that i’m going through and they’re doing it and i still respect them
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and you know maybe that’s you know something that i can do i can be a little bit vulnerable and i can i can
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put myself out there more and that’s why we encourage that and that really starts out slow you you see men who kind of
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come in and they kind of lurk you know they kind of hang out and um and then they slowly kind of work
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their way into conversations and then again really if you have if you have a
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core group of men like our leaders you ariel
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oleg all these you know all these uh the leaders of the powerhouse men if you
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have you know these men on there talking this way and
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you know expressing themselves this way it really kind of eases their mind and i the one thing
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about vulnerability that um i think is that a lot of men
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misunderstand the worth the value in it it’s like well you know that’s not really gonna you know that’s
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not really gonna help me too much and i think a lot of that is you know this kind of masculine mask that men
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you know feel like they need to wear right and you know when you’re wearing that mask and you are you know putting
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up this persona um it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s kind of misleading right you get
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you get a a weird perspective right and you kind of misunderstand what’s really
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going on when it comes to masculinity and vulnerability kind of you know i
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think that i think that you get lost in that and then once that stripped away once you realize that you don’t need to
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you no longer need to wear that mask you know
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no longer need to hide behind anything once you get into that zone and then you start feeling comfortable then you start
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realizing that there’s a lot of value here and getting men to that point though is very difficult very hard to
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you know get him to that point so we’re working on that we’re working on ways to get men comfortable and get
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them talking and then realize that the solutions are out there
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yeah sometimes just the act of talking about something i’ve realized helps me in so many
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different ways and i’m sure other men are the same clients of mine friends of mine family hell the conversations you
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and i have kind of off air in a sense when you are able to talk about stuff
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and just start to get the things out and you feel confident enough to just feel in a safe space sometimes you’ll
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even answer your own damn questions you’re like what should i do with this thing what about blah blah and you kind of start talking through it but i’ve
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realized being part of the powerhouse men brotherhood those daily check-ins that we have
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people either do them in the morning or they’ll do them at night like last thing before like hey today was this or whatever it’s interesting to see how
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certain men like when they first start they’re kind of hesitant with what to put like well i’m excited for today then
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a couple days in there like woke up and i was in a real shitty mood and here’s what’s happening here’s what’s going on
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but here’s what i’m thinking and i love that piece of it because the men that we’re actually attracting that are part
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of the group are the men that are like look i gotta be honest i woke up and hated waking up
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but at the same time after that i thought well i don’t normally hate it so what can i do to better myself and
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having even some of those check-ins that you can see hell i think you had mentioned something earlier on one of
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those check-ins like today was a little rough and then i saw this and it just kind of lifted me up yeah yeah and having those
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conversations they just get better over time you know i think that’s the that’s the misleading
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part about being vulnerable it’s like you think that there’s some negative part of this and then you
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realize pretty fast that there isn’t right and then you really realize that
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there’s a lot of growth potential here you know we we we look at
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um other men in a different way which once you realize that
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they are it’s and this is the weird part it’s like well wait a minute that’s actually a sign of masculinity
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you know it’s like and then then the respect level goes up and say wow you know i thought i thought
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you know a lot of and i thought this myself personally that um if if i were to be too vulnerable and
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if i were to be if i wasn’t always wearing that mask of masculinity um that i was people are
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going to think less of me and they weren’t going to know that i’m a high character man and i i’m manly
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just like that my masculine and i was afraid that i was going to be found out as some other thing and that was
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going to be misunderstood as some other thing and i really didn’t want that so i was i was always hiding behind this you
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know and it’s it’s really hard to figure that out on your own that’s why in one
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of our exercises that we do in the in the powerhouse men brotherhood is we do these exercises
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around like man in the mirror right and we try to ask very specific questions and these
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questions are designed to get you thinking in a certain way right and they’re all everything is is
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geared towards us trying to peel away those layers right it’s like you know
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we can dig down a little bit further every day and then once you start getting used to having
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those man-in-the-mirror conversations with yourself and being honest with yourself it becomes easier and easier to
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open up and have the more um powerful conversations i think there’s a
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lot of power in a man who can sit down and have an honest conversation with himself and
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admit the hard stuff to himself and use that information that he’s learning
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about himself to build a better life going forward but until someone points that out it’s
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kind of hard to see you know and sure we we we have you know these life vision
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exercises right where we we help men build a vision and then build a
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life philosophy you know and then to also put some action towards those
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things with a journaling practice right so you you know there’s a systematic approach to what we’re trying to do with
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men who want it you know within the brotherhood we don’t force men to do this but anybody who feels like
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they they need to um to stop drifting right and it’s it’s a
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it’s really a mental drift it’s not a physical drift right like i said earlier a lot of men who are really squared away
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in a lot of a lot of aspects of their life but then they’re kind of mentally drifting right it’s like well
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i don’t really understand my purpose and my meaning and then once they realize that if you if you put some structure to
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it you know you put some protocols in place you you write
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down a vision for your life you write down a philosophy and then you follow
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that up with some journaling practices that work on those aspects of what you just
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built i think that that putting that on paper and putting that
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in motion in an actual system is i think
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um one of the biggest mistakes i think a man could make is to dismiss that as something that they
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don’t need um because it’s really hard i mean think about it how many men are going to say
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to themselves you know what i need to do is i need to you know i’m really suffering right now and i’m kind of lost
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and what i need to do is write down life vision so you don’t really it’s not really it’s not really just going to show up
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right you know and it’s hard to think of those those solutions but when you come into a brotherhood and other men are
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working on their own lives you know and then it becomes very clear it becomes very purposeful once you see
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other men doing it and i think that’s the power of a brother big time this you’ve said purpose a
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number of times even growth and obviously the point to this show about mindset and self-mastery those things
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tie in directly to what we’re doing within the powerhouse men’s brotherhood because of that mindset somebody comes
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into any sort of situation be it a brotherhood or a job or even just cleaning the damn dishes if you go into
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it with a fixed negative mindset then you’re not going to get anything out of it or at least anything
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worthwhile but being able to go into something that you can have processes and protocols to
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be able to walk you through and guide you through that tough stuff the logical things that are sometimes hard to peel
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away from the emotional side and being able to have that growth mindset with other growth oriented
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people and i got to be honest that’s one of the things that attracted me to the group when you had first launched the
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beta what was that late last year maybe q4 q3 of last year saying hey we’re going to
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launch this thing and we’re looking for a handful of men that want to be a part of this to help us grow this thing i
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noticed right off the bat that those people that were part of it the handful of us that started with you in that
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sense they for the most part were growth oriented the people that weren’t
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they’re not part of it so it’s interesting to see those people that come into this knowing like well
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i’ve got to kind of work through that and there are certain people that i think we’re going to help them work through that within the brotherhood
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where we’ll watch them kind of bloom and that’s a beautiful beautiful thing yes
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yes i agree and um it can be difficult it can be very difficult for
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for men to um see the vision you know the and to see the
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value of a brotherhood and what i try to convince men to do is to just stick with it and give it a chance you know give it
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give it a real opportunity you know um tune in try to participate
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ask questions talk to other men and then you’ll see what this is all about it’s
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it it it is a powerful resource and it’s something ironically that is actually
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changing my life and look you know when i look back on how i lived my life you know and i could have used this 25 years
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ago but it’s like man how how much different would my my life have been
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um had i found a brotherhood that was so um
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it was so passionate about helping others you know how how much different would my life
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have been so you know i think that that’s the misunderstanding you know where it’s like well you know
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if a man is currently going through something in their life right currently in some phase of their life where it’s
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there’s a struggle right there’s some adversity right now i think that the most common
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reaction or the most common um response from a man is to man up
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right and to you know just to you know suck it up buttercup get through it this is what
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men do you know and they feel like if they go to a resource where they’re asking for help that that’s going to
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reveal some weakness like we were talking about earlier and i think that’s a huge misconception and i think that’s
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something that is a mistake i i think that any man i don’t care where you are in life
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it doesn’t matter where you are in life it doesn’t matter what age you are it doesn’t matter what
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you’ve been through if you if you reach out and you try to connect with others you’re going to learn something and it’s
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going to change you and that’s something that we want to get the message out to men it’s like hey give
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this an opportunity look at what it is look and try to understand that we’re
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not judging you we’re not labeling you this is not what a brotherhood does people who judge and
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label are not in brotherhoods you know they’re they’re out doing other
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stuff right they’re not online trying to better themselves they’re not trying to improve themselves right they’re not
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here and if they do show up and somehow work their way in to a brotherhood we’re gonna get we’re gonna get rid of them
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right and so um give it an opportunity you know give it a chance talk
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you know open yourself up a little bit make you show a little vulnerability
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other men look at vulnerability different than what you think other men look at vulnerability
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as a sign of masculinity not as a sign of weakness that’s that’s the biggest
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message yeah i think that’s a thing that’s also changing over the course of time
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uh it’s kind of on us you know you’re a little older than i am you have kids so
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it’ll be on your kids as well to be able to help continue that to grow and allow people to be open and talk through
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things uh it’s so interesting that journey that people need to go through just the personal development
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journey i had a conversation with somebody um maybe two weeks ago an episode that’s
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probably going to air before this we’re talking about how clumsy and awkward you are as you kind of go
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through your personal development and for the most part it’s all by yourself and as a man you’re like i don’t know
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what the i’m doing i’m trying to do these different things and but if you’ve got a group of people
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you can connect with a group of other men that are either on the same path as you are or round about that or maybe
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even a little further that can help and be a guide i am right there with you man i could
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have used this years ago and it’s funny because i’ve seen this so many times be
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the man or be the person that you needed as a kid or that you needed years ago and now
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we’re literally doing that creating that space for men to be able to be open and vulnerable but there’s that
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process that they need to go through and this is calling out all the men that are listening to the show and all the men
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that come into the group there’s a process you’re going to go through that you have to actually go through
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and some of that when you want to just run off or not show up or not do
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this thing that’s a great sign to just do it just step in and do the damn thing
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because that little bit of fear is like oh you don’t want to be a part of this thing this isn’t going to help you when
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in all reality all it’s going to do is help so it’s it’s interesting to see some of the men going through some of that now
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and as the leadership we can see different people it’s on us to be able to kind of tap in and be able to love on
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those people and help them out but those men it’s on them to actually walk through
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that and then raise their hand and it’s interesting to see how some of that’s happening
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the resources are out there but if you think about what what resources you actually have if
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you’re if you’re a man and you’re and you’re struggling with something and you’re trying to figure something out
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trying to better yourself in some way the resources are so limited in that
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well they’re not limited they’re they’re all over the place right there’s youtube videos there’s books there’s there’s all
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kinds of resources but at the end of the day the the there’s there has there
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something has to happen right so let’s say you watch a bunch of videos right every day for a week you watch these
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videos because you’re trying to you’re trying to fix something about yourself right the thing that you have identified
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as being the thing that you need to move yourself forward and maybe get yourself
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out of this funk that you’re in right you feel stuck right so i’m gonna watch videos every
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day for a weekend and then or i’m gonna i’m gonna read a bunch of books right on the subject right but
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then at the end of the day there’s something that has to happen right you have to convert that information
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and all that learning into actionable steps that you actually take
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in your life and then you implement these changes that’s the disconnect
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right it’s like you read a great book you know you read a great book on on something but then you have to
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implement it you have to actually use that data you got to use that information so now what is that is that
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accountability yeah that’s that’s accountability right and that’s are you going to hold yourself accountable well
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maybe maybe not you know me and you we we get these bursts of short-term
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enthusiasm right it’s like we want to we want to go out there and we want to we want to learn honestly we want to learn
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about a subject or something we we have identified and then we’re really super excited about it but then we slowly kind
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of wane it’s like we read the book and then we slowly kind of slip back into our old habits right we get very
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habitual in our thinking we get very habitual in our behaviors and then
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you’re right back to square one so you short-term enthusiasm pushes you forward right it’s like you push forward and
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then you slowly start sliding back well in a brotherhood what happens is you talk about reading a
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book and then you talk about things that you’re working on you’re talking about
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these changes that you’re trying to make and then your brothers of the brotherhood are right there
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holding you accountable for those changes like hey last week we talked about this thing that you’re working on
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how’s that going how what what did you do you know now what new actions can we take to push
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this even more forward and continue this conversation and continue these changes
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continue these new behaviors these new habits and then it becomes
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it becomes something special really what happens is you start doing that for
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yourself you know you started you start reaping those benefits and then you start doing that for others you start
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holding them accountable and that’s where the magic for brotherhood just starts coming together you start
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realizing and say hey wait a minute i’m growing myself and i’m growing others i’m
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growing with these other men that’s that is the power of a brotherhood you’re
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growing yourself and you’re growing at the same time other men and you’re all doing it together you’re all pushing
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forward and those types of relationships
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personally i think those are the most powerful ones you know they’re they’re they’re not superficial right we have a
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lot of in-person superficial relationships right where we talk to our buddies about fishing and hunting and we
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talk about cars and we talk about surface stuff right but and those are those are important
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friendships to have but when it comes to real actual change in our life and really pushing our life
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forward the relationships that and the and the work that you do inside of a brotherhood
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i think it’s one of the most powerful things that we can do time the accountability of it all
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is a major major factor of it you know i i keep thinking about uh this this man there’s nobody in
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particular but a man that is kind of living their life they’re doing their things they’ve checked off the boxes
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like you’ve said they don’t have anybody really near them that they can do this sort of thing with
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so to be able to jump into something and have a monday night call or a thursday night call with your team and be able to
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work through stuff this is even something that people can work through as they work through how they talk about the things
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with their family and with their friends because look we’ve all heard you are the some of the five people you hang out with the
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most and i’ve had to tell clients and friends and family that includes you
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you are that for somebody else so it’s interesting to see the men start to
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uh envelop some of this and then spew some of that back out we’re seeing some of that within the group now and let’s
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be real here the group’s only a handful of months old so it’s still growing men are still kind
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of opening up but at this point we’re we’ve got a solid amount of men that are already part of the group in fact on
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that note steve why don’t you talk a little bit about what it looks like to check out the group and to be part of
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the group and we’re also running a promo right now right we have a special going on 50 off
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through the manly club website um we’re inviting men in and we are trying to
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build this right now in the early stages we’re trying to build out um all of these
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features that we’re hearing that men want you know one of the one of the current things that
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we’re working on right now is creating a buddy system to where um
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the day-to-day accountability of you know because it’s it’s one thing to be on a team and
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so there’s two there’s two parts of this one is you’re on a team and you meet weekly with your team and then every
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week the team holds you accountable right there’s if you have a team of 15 guys every week there’s going to be five
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guys who are on the hot seat right they’re the guys who show up and they’re the guys who have to um talk about the
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stuff that they’re working on right now next week is the next five guys that kind of thing right so that’s one thing
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one method but then we’re all different right some people need this daily
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um support this daily accountability so we’re creating these these uh body system right to where you and another
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man are constantly maybe it’s over text message maybe it’s over email or whatever it is maybe it’s a phone call
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maybe it’s a zoom call or whatever it is then you’re holding each other accountable every single day and so it’s
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a constant um accountability process because that’s what a lot of us need right and
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it really depends and that’s really going to be different for a lot of men right there’s going to be it’s going to be a different need for a
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lot of men some men are going to be annoyed by that right and then some men are going to really value that and so
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we’re trying to build those features that are going to cover as many different types of men as
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humanly possible and that’s what we’re doing right now our growth stage our early growth stage is based on just
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listening to what the men are telling us and they have been vocal so thank you
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men for being vocal and yeah about things i know i i was one of those being vocal
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about stuff too uh it’s interesting to be able to build something and be able to help other people and then be able to
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implement something so quickly and you touched on the startup life um it’s way
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different than corporate world where you have to go through bureaucracy and meetings after meetings after meetings i
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mean there are certain types of week we have to have meetings as a leadership but we’ll knock things out at the end of
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that meeting and say all right this is the next thing that’s going to happen so it’s cool to see how we’re able to be a bit nimble and flexible as we kind of
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work through this um but steve i really appreciate you being on the show today and like i ask every
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single person that’s on the show what’s one piece of advice you’d give somebody that’s on their path towards self
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mastery i would say um get your thoughts your emotions and your actions in
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alignment you know it’s really as simple as that um and it’s something that is um i think
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misunderstood and undervalued you know when you first hear people talking about things like
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this you know the first reaction is you know you know here we go with the cosmic
40:55
ooze right and you know it’s a it but get past that get past that understand
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that um you don’t you don’t need to suffer right once you once you understand
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that um they’re they’re you well first of all you’re in total control right um once you understand
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that there is a systematic approach that you can take to to uh put these things in place i think
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um it’s an eye-opening experience it really is and really in a nutshell it really
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boils down to um getting that alignment in place and there are men out there who can help you
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do it without the judgment without the labeling but find those resources and if it’s not
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powerhouse men brotherhood find another one but do something about it and take action and
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follow through that’s awesome man again thank you so much for being on the show it’s a
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pleasure to work with you it’s a pleasure to have you on the show uh steve where can people find out more about the powerhouse men’s brotherhood
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mountainclub.com thematicclub.com um everything is there um all the
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resources um all the information you can you can actually reach out directly to me through that website and i answer all
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of my emails personally and um it’s all there
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perfect so check out themanleyclub.com and you can get more information about powerhouse men brotherhood again steve thank you so
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much for joining us today thanks dick [Music]
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another great conversation on today’s episode of the mindset and self-mastery show
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now i know a lot of men listen to this show and ambitious men at that so
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sometimes we as ambitious men just find it so much friggin easier to
42:55
just bottle up or maybe confide in a friend but only so much to an extent
43:03
about maybe a tough tough situation but for the most part you’re going to be like man
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i’ll be all right so ask yourself why is that why and are you okay with that that level of
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depth probably not or you really wouldn’t be listening to the show and there’s a daily battle to be fought
43:23
and lessons to be learned if we’re willing to listen be coachable and accept accountability
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we’re building something incredible over the powerhouse men brotherhood that’s going to help with that so check it out
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