Episode summary: Polish Peter Kolat was growing up in Poland during the communist era. His family lived in a small room and they never had much money.
His parents divorced when he was 8 and his mom decided it was best if he & his sister say with their aunt and uncle in Poland, while she goes to America to work and hopefully make a better life for them.
When it was time for his mother to leave, Peter begged his mom not to go, but she had to do what she needed to, so she left for America.
When Peter turned 14, his mom had earned enough money to be a house in the United States and now wanted her children to move back with her.
Peter had friends, school, and dance that he didn’t want to give up, but he had no choice. Now Peter is grateful that he is here because of all the opportunities that live here.
There are many times people, or Peter himself, could claim that he was a poor Polish kid, but Peter used these impactful moments to choose who he is and what he does.
Peter is on a mission to help other people become and live their best selves.
Guest Name & Bio: Peter Kolat, known as Polish Peter in the industry, is a transformational coach for Immigrant entrepreneurs and business owners. Because of his ability to speak into people’s lives and dive deep into what’s holding someone from being successful, he’s been referred to as the Polish Tony (ref: Tony Robbins) by his students.
Peter owns a successful national business development and coaching company, runs 2 transformational coaching masterminds & has worked with high 6 and 7-figure businesses in 16 different industries around the country.
His clients consistently return positive ROIs in their businesses.
EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION
[Nick McGowan]: Hey Polish Peter welcometo the show man how are you doing
[Polish Peter]: I’m doing great well thanks for havingme and i really appreciate you being here
[Polish Peter]: on this particular podcast with you man [Nick McGowan]: yeah absolutely look I’m excited for youto be here we connected i don’t know
[Nick McGowan]: a couple weeks ago a month agosomething like that through a friend who was
[Nick McGowan]: on i think one of the firstten episodes that i done adrea smooth so
[Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: he was on and i know whoeveradrian puts me in contact with I’m in
[Nick McGowan]: for some weird fucking stories and greatconversation with great people so I’m glad that
[Nick McGowan]: you’re here but look man i gotto be on right off the bat just
[Nick McGowan]: saying to you welcome Polish Peter almostjust sound like i feel like in being
[Nick McGowan]: a dick head [Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: and just calling you that so iwant to get that out of the way
[Nick McGowan]: first for the audience who are likethis guy is kind of a douche bag
[Nick McGowan]: me for calling you that but that’swhat people call you right like it’s
[Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: that’s kind of the Nickname industry wisecorrect
[Polish Peter]: yeah that is the Nickname [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: that’s what i’ve been kind of knownfor in the industry and the cameo of
[Polish Peter]: something that was in one of themaster minds that was came up with as
[Polish Peter]: you probably know i have an accentyou can
[Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: hear i have an accent originally frompoland
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: was born in poland in southern mostpoland in like middle of mompins um lived
[Polish Peter]: in the first seven years in atwelve by twelve room and the communes tera
[Polish Peter]: in poland so there was very smallkind of a in the hotel room kind
[Polish Peter]: the whole was our bedroom or livingroom or kitchen et ter the side batooms
[Polish Peter]: were down the holway public restrooms canthink we everybody used so i came out
[Polish Peter]: of poland and so I’m pretty proudof my polish heritage at the same time
[Polish Peter]: i am really grateful lucky and blessedto be in particular country because i know
[Polish Peter]: where i came from and when iget to do now in today’s world is
[Polish Peter]: help other people help impact their livestoo for the better men of themselves
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: you know because we all have storieswe all walk through
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: stories so the fact that I’m ableto do this
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: has helped me tremendously now the storybehind the polish piller is that think about
[Polish Peter]: every single one of us has somekind of an identity that we’ve
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: created for ourselves [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: for [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: me it could have been this poorpolish kid from communist era and and kind
[Polish Peter]: of disempowering and things like that soand it’s something that’s out of my control
[Polish Peter]: now what happened [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: out of this Polish Peter [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: thing is that while my first nameis peter Polish Peter
[Nick McGowan]: ye [Polish Peter]: and there’s an identity tied into therethat is within me that i have control
[Polish Peter]: over the nobody can take way fromme and that includes being
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: empowering being transformative being persons intentional andloving so actually each letter stands for something
[Polish Peter]: and that’s what i created for myalban kind of became this name for around
[Polish Peter]: the industry and that’s how people referto me but the point I’m making is
[Polish Peter]: there is an identity that every singleone of us has
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: and each one of you the listeneri want you to create an identity for
[Polish Peter]: stuff that you have within your owncontrol that nobody can take away from you
[Nick McGowan]: yeah that’s a ton of ton oflayers to the one thing that somebody right
[Nick McGowan]: off the top if they just heardme call you just Polish Peter like
[Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: probably asked why the fun did hesay that like
[Polish Peter]: now [Nick McGowan]: that’s [Polish Peter]: now that’s [Nick McGowan]: the thing [Polish Peter]: out [Nick McGowan]: yeah yeah well o i also knowthat it’s not just not somebody tying your
[Nick McGowan]: identity directly to you but also somethingyou’ve created and used an acronym to be
[Nick McGowan]: able to actually strengthen it a bitbecause i think one things that we get
[Nick McGowan]: into on this show often without talkingdirectly about it is the
[Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: flavor that we bring to life andthat we see
[Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: through things the way that we seelife and interact with through the different lenses
[Nick McGowan]: that we have [Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: the identities that we have i oftenjoke at times like I’m a little much
[Nick McGowan]: because i was born in philly that’sjust that’s the joke that’s not
[Polish Peter]: right [Nick McGowan]: real that’s not [Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: that not who i am but it’spart of what some people believe me to
[Nick McGowan]: be so i’ll lean into those jokesin certain ways and in those ways i
[Nick McGowan]: know we can buy into those identitiesso it’s interesting how you not only bought
[Nick McGowan]: to it you’re like fun yeah thisis who i am and this is what
[Nick McGowan]: this actually means um so i appreciate [Polish Peter]: ah [Nick McGowan]: that you dive right right into thatin fact i always start these episodes off
[Nick McGowan]: with tell us what you do fora living and you knocked that off so
[Nick McGowan]: thank you the next one is goingto be what’s that one thing that most
[Nick McGowan]: people don’t know about you that’s maybea little odd or bizarre i know you
[Nick McGowan]: got at least a couple of them [Polish Peter]: well it’s depending on the reading ofthe show but i want to put this
[Polish Peter]: out [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: there like this so when i wasa little back in poland from the part
[Polish Peter]: of the country that I’m at it’svery traditional lot of you know we have
[Polish Peter]: our own traditions and things like thatso i used to be in this traditional
[Polish Peter]: dance group i played violin in thereand i danced like we travel across the
[Polish Peter]: country and start doing like international festivalsand things like that so a lot of
[Polish Peter]: people here in states don’t know thati got moved and those
[Nick McGowan]: uh [Polish Peter]: moves were traditional [Nick McGowan]: uh [Polish Peter]: back there but i mean if youwant to go look up on an internet
[Polish Peter]: word goral g o r a land then look at dancing for that you’ll
[Polish Peter]: see what i used to do yeah [Nick McGowan]: nice oh man so you can cuta rug or polish rug i guess in
[Nick McGowan]: that sense [Polish Peter]: yeah that’s it [Nick McGowan]: i appreciate that man i almost youknow as soon as somebody says anything like
[Nick McGowan]: that and it’s probably because I’m avery visual person i start to picture the
[Nick McGowan]: person doing [Polish Peter]: ye [Nick McGowan]: those things and in some ways ialmost picture you like simpson’s character just kind
[Nick McGowan]: of like cruising along and dancing butthat sounds like an epic bit of a
[Nick McGowan]: story that you have where there aresome people i think growing up where they
[Nick McGowan]: want to play either music and theyget to travel around with their school whatever
[Nick McGowan]: and then there are some people thatplay sports and they get to travel around
[Nick McGowan]: for sports is like [Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: travel league and you know advanced andall that sort of stuff some people don’t
[Nick McGowan]: ever get to experience that sort ofstuff i never experienced that really in grade
[Nick McGowan]: school but getting out of great schooltoward as a musician and there’s a lot
[Nick McGowan]: of life that happens within that so [Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: growing through that and i know that’sprobably a eons ago but when you look
[Nick McGowan]: back at it now how do youthink some of that shaped your life
[Polish Peter]: well i mean it gave me somediscipline because i mean there are some discomplinens
[Polish Peter]: behind it that you need to beable to know i mean there’s a lot
[Polish Peter]: of [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: stuff that we did in the dancingthat requires physical i mean we did push
[Polish Peter]: ups we set up because allow ofthe dancing involves that so there’s a discipline
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: there is the team work aspect itbecause it you’re working with other people right
[Polish Peter]: the other aspect there was a partof the dancing where it was just a
[Polish Peter]: couple and me as a man hadto lead so there was learning how to
[Polish Peter]: d or what other people how toread and things like that if i look
[Polish Peter]: at [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: you can start looking how some ofthose aspects would play into what you end
[Polish Peter]: up doing in life and it’s interestingthat part of my life this was between
[Polish Peter]: ages about eight and fourteen that iwas doing the dancing and now that i
[Polish Peter]: know what i know about human psychologythose are the years when you start to
[Polish Peter]: s and figure out your belief systemand you start looking what do i believe
[Polish Peter]: and what’s how do i start tofit into life right
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: the arly ten r you start tolook at okay what do i fit in
[Polish Peter]: how do i fit into this wholething as we call life so a lot
[Polish Peter]: of that ends up shaping how youstart looking at life later on
[Nick McGowan]: that’s that’s why i brought that upthere’s a lot of life that happens within
[Nick McGowan]: that period of time and [Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: for you to go through such aprocess and be almost semi professional in that
[Nick McGowan]: sort of way it’s interesting instead ofkind of going the opposite side of it
[Nick McGowan]: so let’s kind of ty into whatyou’re doing now because back then eight to
[Nick McGowan]: fourteen years old yes there was alot of stuff that happened but even the
[Nick McGowan]: next six years and ten years plusfrom that point there’s a lot of stuff
[Nick McGowan]: that appen talk to us about thejourney getting from poland and of getting out
[Nick McGowan]: of that tiny as little place towhat you’re doing now and kind of some
[Nick McGowan]: of those key moments that happened alongthe way you’re like this ship need to
[Nick McGowan]: happen this way to get me towear at now
[Polish Peter]: yeah that’s a great question because ibelieve now that i know what i know
[Polish Peter]: because I’m I’m a transformative coach soi hope people now learn with their personal
[Polish Peter]: life meaning their vision for their ownlife or of their business how do we
[Polish Peter]: create this business to support that lifebecause most of the time all ends
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: up happening for people as they arevery clear what somewhat clear on what they
[Polish Peter]: want their business to look like whatthey want to do in order to have
[Polish Peter]: this financial freedom but they’re not veryclear on what their financial freedom is and
[Polish Peter]: they end up [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: the business takes over their life sothat’s why i end up helping people because
[Polish Peter]: a lot of that journey is whati went through and on the personal side
[Polish Peter]: i mean communism was not a funtime for me as a kid and key
[Polish Peter]: moments happened for all of us sowhen i talk about the key moments that
[Polish Peter]: happened in my life i want youto listeners to start looking what are the
[Polish Peter]: key moments for you that you hadin your life that had some kind of
[Polish Peter]: an impact on you because those impactful moments is the moment we’re going to
[Polish Peter]: shape how you believe and how youlook at life because we tend to make
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: some kind of a choice some kindof a decision during that particular time so
[Polish Peter]: i’ll give you an example one ofmy times during my life when i was
[Polish Peter]: fourteen years old because it’s kind ofrelated to we just talked about my mom
[Polish Peter]: was already here in united states workingand you know making money because my parents
[Polish Peter]: got divorced when i was eight [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: so i was at that time betweeneight and fourteen i was living with my
[Polish Peter]: and my uncle and my life waspretty good at that particular time someone hit
[Polish Peter]: fourteen years old my mom comes tounited to poland from united states for vacation
[Polish Peter]: well about week and a half orso before she was coming back here she
[Polish Peter]: sits me and my sister down andshe goes well guess what kids and we’re
[Polish Peter]: like what you’re going to night stateswith me and I’m like no I’m bad
[Polish Peter]: she’s [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: like well yes you are because you [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: know i bought a house over therei start
[Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: life over there and i want youguys with me I’m like well i want
[Polish Peter]: to go my life is [Nick McGowan]: a [Polish Peter]: pretty good here so I’m fourteen yourkid trying to figure out how do i
[Polish Peter]: fit into this [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: life right to night that’s why the [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: group comes in that i was dancingin and i have friends and all that
[Polish Peter]: kind of stuff and so for abouta week or so we kind of argue
[Polish Peter]: about me going or [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: not going I’m not going I’m goingI’m not going I’m not going next thing
[Polish Peter]: i know I’m on the plane [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: and the thing is i made adecision now to make it kind of interpretation
[Polish Peter]: out of that that means that idon’t have a choice i don’t have a
[Polish Peter]: voice i don’t have an [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: to say right especially this is mymom one of the most important people in
[Polish Peter]: my life so if you [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: can look at that [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: because it was pretty impactful for mei remember this moment like you know there
[Polish Peter]: was another moment for instance like wheni was eight years old my mom after
[Polish Peter]: they got divorced she had to goto united states
[Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: to make money and i was goingto go live with my and my uncle
[Polish Peter]: well what happens then i go tothe airport i’ve realized at the air my
[Polish Peter]: idiookadimagine my ideo self standing at theairport back then you can literally walk up
[Polish Peter]: to the gate where the planes wereat and
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: I’m literally begging my mom not togo it’s my mom
[Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: you know i mean i finally [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: realized that like [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: hits me like tone bricks like thisis happening oh my god this is happening
[Polish Peter]: so [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: i go please don’t go she’s likewell i can’t i have to go I’m
[Polish Peter]: begging her again so please don’t goplease don’t go please don’t go next thing
[Polish Peter]: i know she turns around and youknow crying goes and gets on the plane
[Polish Peter]: and I’m crying and make a decisionagain i say
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: well can convince my mom my momtrying to convince her to stay she won’t
[Polish Peter]: stay so those are the types ofthings that starts to shape our lives what
[Polish Peter]: later [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: on has had an impact on meironically my first business was in marketing gol
[Polish Peter]: figure when you kind of have [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: to i a in a way influenceothers to
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: buy some kind of product or serviceright so because we tend to work from
[Polish Peter]: a lot of those kind of decisionsback in life hope that makes any sense
[Polish Peter]: to you because i think [Nick McGowan]: oh yeah [Polish Peter]: that is what people are dealing within their lives like why i do
[Nick McGowan]: i agree [Polish Peter]: what i do [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: i think you you drive it homepretty well because you lived it you know
[Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: i often bring up many of theseepisodes and a lot of conversations a lot
[Nick McGowan]: of the ship that has formed usto who we are now really comes from
[Nick McGowan]: childhood specifically trauma [Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: and something that happened and trauma doesn’talways have to mean a really negative thing
[Polish Peter]: no [Nick McGowan]: even taking your mom leaving yes thatwas traumatic and in some ways some light
[Nick McGowan]: it’s negative but there’s also a lotof positivity from that she was stepping she
[Nick McGowan]: was uncomfortable she was doing these thingsthat were selfless to be able to help
[Nick McGowan]: you and make a different change inlife and do a lot of that stuff
[Nick McGowan]: however you as an eight year oldkid see your mom leaving so it’s always
[Nick McGowan]: interesting to be able to look atthose different layers and levels to it and
[Nick McGowan]: especially going back to it and lookingat it almost like a wall flower or
[Nick McGowan]: just being a third party and justgoing ship you know i can know nderstand
[Nick McGowan]: from both their perspectives and being ableto unpack that stuff i think there’s a
[Nick McGowan]: lot to it you know that’s oneof the key things where you talked about
[Nick McGowan]: eight and fourteen those are two majormoments or at least right
[Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: around you know six to eight twelveto fourteen fifteen inch or so that a
[Nick McGowan]: lot of ship happens that sometimes wejust don’t go back through and process through
[Nick McGowan]: because as we get into our thirtiesor forties or fifties there’s other ship right
[Nick McGowan]: you know other things come up [Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: you’ve got your own kids or you’vegot other things that you’ve got to go
[Nick McGowan]: through and kind of deal with letalone the bull ship that happened fucking years
[Nick McGowan]: ago in the amon times i’ve heardpeople say well that was years ago yeah
[Nick McGowan]: cool i get that but that ship [Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: is still fucking with you right nowso when you think about and i kind
[Nick McGowan]: of know that you’ve done some ofthis when you think of the stuff that
[Nick McGowan]: you’ve gone through and you look backat it and process through that how did
[Nick McGowan]: you go back and process through itwithout driving yourself mad
[Polish Peter]: i mean that’s a good point becausehere’s the thing i do
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: this with my own students when wego and look at mentioned about impact all
[Polish Peter]: moments and some of them [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: are dramatic some of em were talkingabout impact
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: moments getting married is an impactful momentit’s probably
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: for most people when they’re standing upthere and saying i do is a good
[Polish Peter]: really really really good thing right but [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: it is an impact moment we makechoice as we make decisions in life and
[Polish Peter]: their shape or we dosed [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: so when we go back to thosemoments whether you know positive or negative being
[Polish Peter]: aware of them is super important becausewhen you’re aware of it and you know
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: that’s what decision you’ve made at thatparticular moment that awareness alone can help you
[Polish Peter]: moving forward in life i’ll give youan example when my oldest was eight years
[Polish Peter]: old this was back in two thousandeleven my wife came to me one night
[Polish Peter]: and I’m not going [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: to go too much into the storybut she came to me and she said
[Polish Peter]: i want a divorce [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: it hit me like tone bricks imean it was complete shock out of the
[Polish Peter]: new work kind of a thing icouldn’t believe it and i went into the
[Polish Peter]: same conversation that i did when mymom m was living when she was eight
[Polish Peter]: and when she now came in wheni was fourteen and then she was talking
[Polish Peter]: about taking us back to united statesand ironically enough when my parents got divorced
[Polish Peter]: i was eight and when i gotdivorced my eldest was coincidence maybe i don’t
[Polish Peter]: know but the problem is there’s [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: a pattern there so [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: being aware of that pattern is verypowerful because now you can recognize and see
[Polish Peter]: okay so what kind of a personwas shape that there’s some really good things
[Polish Peter]: about that because think about it thisway on those decisions that i’ve
[Nick McGowan]: by [Polish Peter]: made has helped me tremendously at thesame time it can have some negative impacts
[Polish Peter]: on it so being aware of itcan tell you well next time probably begging
[Polish Peter]: is not going to work it’s [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: not a good thing but but upto that point i wasn’t aware of it
[Polish Peter]: that was just [Nick McGowan]: sure [Polish Peter]: my goal to kind of a thingright so
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: being aware of it has shaped metremendously to be able to go okay how
[Polish Peter]: do i go and how do ilevel up do i need to
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: become to be able to be thatimpact ful person that i need to be
[Polish Peter]: in relationships so now that awareness allowedme to go and say who do i
[Polish Peter]: need to become as a person [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: rights a way of being as whoi need to be as a person obviously
[Polish Peter]: for me it had to be impactfulhad to be focused had
[Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: to be intentional not you know thebegging kind of a person that makes sense
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: se [Nick McGowan]: yeah isn’t an interesting how when youhave negative things that happen you tie something
[Nick McGowan]: to it there’s an anchor situation some [Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: some problem or whatever that comes upthat’s huge and you can either grow or
[Nick McGowan]: you fall back from it and ifind it interesting how you see it as
[Nick McGowan]: a leveling up whatever works for youyou know there are certain people that agree
[Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: with that like i kind of lookat that too almost a linear thing like
[Nick McGowan]: you’re kind of growing other people chooseto look at it differently and that’s fine
[Nick McGowan]: however you want to look at itit’s an evolution and a change but it’s
[Nick McGowan]: being aware of the ship that happenedwhere it’s almost and it’s almost kind of
[Nick McGowan]: silly because you think about it likeif you were to put your hand on
[Nick McGowan]: the stove and you go fuck that’spretty hot that really hurts i don’t want
[Nick McGowan]: to do it again and you keep [Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: doing it [Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: you could only do it a coupleo times you be like all right i’ve
[Nick McGowan]: learned like in fact [Polish Peter]: let’s [Nick McGowan]: most [Polish Peter]: soon [Nick McGowan]: of us have stopped that yeah wellthat’s
[Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: what I’m saying even on that actualscale most people have stopped doing that but
[Nick McGowan]: then there are other things in lifethat we as people haven’t actually stopped doing
[Nick McGowan]: those things for [Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: and i appreciate that you bring upthe awareness but many times that it’s about
[Nick McGowan]: the as if you’re not aware ofa problem how the funk can you do
[Nick McGowan]: anything about any of that problem ifyou have
[Polish Peter]: right [Nick McGowan]: no idea what to do with itbut then once you know a lot of
[Nick McGowan]: people get paralyzed and they start tofreak themselves out or over think that so
[Nick McGowan]: when you go through with your clientsand walk them through that like they’re there
[Nick McGowan]: at the press is of that thoughtand
[Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: they’re about to lose their mind becauseyou and i both know they’re stepping into
[Nick McGowan]: the movie instead of watching the damnthing how do you hold them back from
[Nick McGowan]: getting deep into it and watch themovie and learn from it and be aware
[Nick McGowan]: of what’s actually going on [Polish Peter]: well one of [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: the there was a few important conversationthat happened during the process one of the
[Polish Peter]: most important things that i when ido this with my client as i say
[Polish Peter]: to them at the beginning listen iam here for you and there’s no judgment
[Polish Peter]: here [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: there is no gossip there it’s asafe place that we can have conversation and
[Polish Peter]: because i don’t think I’m any betterthan anybody i may be Polish Peter and
[Polish Peter]: there was Polish Peter that’s it andthere’s somebody else has you know good things
[Polish Peter]: bad things we all are walking storiesso i
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: don’t believe that many better so whoam i to judge somebody on what they
[Polish Peter]: show they [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: shouldn’t do right i went through [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: a bunch of crap myself and [Nick McGowan]: love [Polish Peter]: that’s [Nick McGowan]: that [Polish Peter]: where I’m coming from so when thereis no judgment when people are being vulnerable
[Polish Peter]: I’m being open and they’re able tokind of walk through that know that the
[Polish Peter]: people on the other side who arelistening are not judging them they’re there to
[Polish Peter]: help them and they know like they’vebeen there like a lot crazily enough a
[Polish Peter]: lot of the situations that my studentshave gone through or going through i’ve been
[Polish Peter]: there myself now why that is [Nick McGowan]: h [Polish Peter]: i have no idea [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: but i’ve walked through a lot of [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: this stuff like for instance someways thecaholism i had impact with alcolism because my
[Polish Peter]: dad [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: was an alcoholic and i was livingwith the most important person in my life
[Polish Peter]: colisham took his wife [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: um divorce i went through it myselfhaving no tough times where i almost living
[Polish Peter]: event river kind of a thing [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: i’ve been all those different places sothere is an empathy that comes from my
[Polish Peter]: place i try to always with mystudents to
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: make sure that they recognize that buti think keep going back to this judgment
[Polish Peter]: there is no judgment there is oneof the most impactful things that you can
[Polish Peter]: do with anybody in your life because [Nick McGowan]: ah [Polish Peter]: think about you kids or a spouseor significant other and they’re not telling you
[Polish Peter]: something you feel they’re not telling yousomething like something is going on won’t you
[Polish Peter]: consider something they feel judged by youthat’s why they’re not telling you so there
[Polish Peter]: is no judgment [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: it might be a really good thingto be able to put that in conversations
[Polish Peter]: with people in your life and seewhat they end up telling you because we
[Polish Peter]: all have stories and we all havesomething going on
[Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: yeah the judgment free zone is definitelya beautiful zone to be in and i
[Nick McGowan]: know some people will look at kindof the circles have my immediate circle have
[Nick McGowan]: the next level circle et cetera likethat you kind of work through and that
[Nick McGowan]: you allow to be open with reallyreally enjoy the people and i enjoyed the
[Nick McGowan]: conversation we’re having now and what we’vehad before because i enjoyed the people that
[Nick McGowan]: are genuinely open with that like whenthey ask
[Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: hey how are you they actually givea ship they’re asking because you genuinely care
[Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: instead of just hey there’s another humani should probably ask them a thing because
[Nick McGowan]: it is a social thing to donot typically how most people want to operate
[Nick McGowan]: but a lot of people will operatethat way because the ship internally and i
[Nick McGowan]: think some of that also comes fromthe judgment that we have on our own
[Nick McGowan]: selves when you think [Polish Peter]: right [Nick McGowan]: of time is where you’re fucking pisyou have a terrible day or ship’s gone
[Nick McGowan]: weird or whatever you take it outon somebody that you’re talking to or working
[Nick McGowan]: with in all reality you don’t meanit you I’m sure polish paper you can
[Nick McGowan]: catch it at times but I’m surethere are other times
[Polish Peter]: yeah i [Nick McGowan]: you [Polish Peter]: can [Nick McGowan]: have [Polish Peter]: see [Nick McGowan]: to [Polish Peter]: it [Nick McGowan]: it happens a week later you’re likefunk was such an asshole I’m so sorry
[Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: but being aware of those things andthe judgments that happened from it are huge
[Nick McGowan]: now the judgment for one i thinkshould expand outside of that initial zone that
[Nick McGowan]: we have the same time [Polish Peter]: ah let me [Nick McGowan]: we [Polish Peter]: add something to [Nick McGowan]: have [Polish Peter]: the [Nick McGowan]: a hard [Polish Peter]: pecos [Nick McGowan]: time [Polish Peter]: let me add something [Nick McGowan]: go for [Polish Peter]: i [Nick McGowan]: it [Polish Peter]: think this is important to mention [Nick McGowan]: to [Polish Peter]: when there is a judgment what endsup happenings people tend to operate
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: from the place of fake book thatmakes any sense
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: right you go on [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: facebook you see how low people aresharing some you know triumphs they share like
[Polish Peter]: lambrginis kind of a thing as opposedto what’s really
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: going on because there [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: is a whole judgment going on overthere right and well that’s up happening when
[Polish Peter]: people are operating from that place theytry to fix and change themselves from that
[Polish Peter]: place so in a way they arechanging or fixing something that is not real
[Polish Peter]: that’s not authentic to them now whenthere is no judgment and you can get
[Polish Peter]: real with yourself you can get tothe authentic self right here in your heart
[Polish Peter]: who are you yourself authentically guess whatyou don’t have to change anything because
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: there is no nothing broken about you [Nick McGowan]: okay [Polish Peter]: and i truly believe that whatever singleperson i have conversation with i don’t think
[Polish Peter]: there is anything wrong with anybody there’sanything to
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: fix there anything broken about you isjust what a happening is over their years
[Polish Peter]: all the different things that happened foryou like those things that happened when i
[Polish Peter]: was age when i was fourteen wheni was twenty seven years old when i
[Polish Peter]: was in my thirties with divorce andall that kind of stuff all the scrap
[Polish Peter]: that got piled on top of usand we’ve been carrying it for it over
[Polish Peter]: the years now when we start [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: having those kinds of conversation when theno judgment you start letting go some of
[Polish Peter]: those things putting them down not haveto carry them around guess what you become
[Polish Peter]: your authentic self become a lot morefree and you can actually
[Nick McGowan]: h [Polish Peter]: operate [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: in life and go after life asa true authentic person who you meant to
[Polish Peter]: be [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: and then guess what stuff starts tohappen in your life you start up or
[Polish Peter]: you start taking action because you’re notdoing some fake book stuff you’re being the
[Polish Peter]: real authentic self star [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: does that make sense [Nick McGowan]: oh man totally and i think forthe audience to understand that there’s here’s a
[Nick McGowan]: time in a place to be ableto bitch and complain about things or complain
[Nick McGowan]: about things and [Polish Peter]: yes [Nick McGowan]: talk about the real stuff that hurtsand there’s a way to be able to
[Nick McGowan]: do it properly and i know it’ssir for people to talk about the lambarginis
[Nick McGowan]: and the big winds that they getall the trips and all that stuff but
[Nick McGowan]: they will talk about either the hardwork or the sacrifice and the ship they’ve
[Nick McGowan]: gone through so even just ting offa fake book people having conversations with people
[Nick McGowan]: that are part of their circles orpeople that
[Polish Peter]: yep [Nick McGowan]: are professionals that they can have conversationswith overall just being open and vulnerable is
[Nick McGowan]: a key aspect of being able tounderstand when you talk about authenticity and being
[Nick McGowan]: the authentic ou and doing those thingsi find it interesting because i think a
[Nick McGowan]: lot of people will look at whati need to be that person like i
[Nick McGowan]: need to be that person to bethese things where and if you flip that
[Nick McGowan]: and you be those things you’ll bethat person it’s just a matter of showing
[Nick McGowan]: what you actually care about doing thethings that you care about and more of
[Nick McGowan]: that will come to you where it’sfunny we’re typically taught the opposite of that
[Nick McGowan]: go [Polish Peter]: yep [Nick McGowan]: after that thing go be that thinginstead of just being it um
[Polish Peter]: we already [Nick McGowan]: so [Polish Peter]: are [Nick McGowan]: yeah exactly [Polish Peter]: you really [Nick McGowan]: i was [Polish Peter]: think [Nick McGowan]: just going [Polish Peter]: about [Nick McGowan]: to say do you want to unpackthat a bit more m so with that
[Nick McGowan]: do you have anything else you’d liketo add
[Polish Peter]: no i mean just saying that becausethink about it if you become your authentic
[Polish Peter]: self you already are that particular person [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: and it’s just all the crap that’sbeen covered until you’re trying to do it
[Polish Peter]: through it it’s almost like operating ina fog if you just put all the
[Polish Peter]: stuff [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: down the park can dissipate [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: and you can actually be clear onwhat you want you like to look like
[Polish Peter]: what you want to do in businessin life
[Nick McGowan]: well you’ve brought up eight years oldfourteen years old when we think of those
[Nick McGowan]: times especially as an eight year oldmost people as eight year old kids are
[Nick McGowan]: so open and inquisitive and wandering aboutlife like
[Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: what is this thing i want toplay out this side or i want to
[Nick McGowan]: try this thing or try that ordo whatever it’s as we get older we
[Nick McGowan]: start to get calised over that becausepeople tell us no where people start to
[Nick McGowan]: heap their own fucking ship of fearson us and be like oh i can’t
[Nick McGowan]: do it so you can’t kid eitherfuck those adults that said that sort of
[Nick McGowan]: stuff they were just afraid [Polish Peter]: hm [Nick McGowan]: so being able to shape ourselves wasn’table to happen for everybody so i think
[Nick McGowan]: something that we’ve kind of talked abouta bit on this so far without really
[Nick McGowan]: getting directly to it was actually goingback and working with that child yourself
[Polish Peter]: m [Nick McGowan]: have you gone back Polish Peter andsat eight year old you been like this
[Nick McGowan]: is tough i [Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: fucking [Polish Peter]: yeah [Nick McGowan]: get it but [Polish Peter]: trust [Nick McGowan]: we’re gonna [Polish Peter]: me [Nick McGowan]: be good [Polish Peter]: because I’m an several master months andi was lucky in ough to be in
[Polish Peter]: a master mind where there is thatopen space no judgment vulnerability right
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: and that’s what i do right nowwith all my students we have master minds
[Polish Peter]: three times a year to be ableto have that kind of conversation and when
[Polish Peter]: you sit down with your eight yearold self kind of thing you get real
[Polish Peter]: with it and it was a low [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: ter share on my you know criedi like a blow baby i’ve had
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: some you know really tough conversations becauseyou know someone in the room tells you
[Polish Peter]: listen stop being a people pleaser andi like what you talking about people please
[Polish Peter]: I’m not people please and then youstart looking and start really diving into what
[Polish Peter]: it is like holy crap i ama people
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: please and holy crap that did costme my merit and holy crap i wonder
[Polish Peter]: why my business hasn’t been operating thatwhy i wanted to operate because I’m saying
[Polish Peter]: yes to everything and everybody and holy [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: crap people please alas kind of gotsquirrels all over
[Nick McGowan]: a [Polish Peter]: the place because I’m saying yes tothis this this this this now what would
[Polish Peter]: you know [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: when you start getting real with yourselfand that was just me different people have
[Polish Peter]: different reality right some people need toone of my students for instance he to
[Polish Peter]: the outside world comes in [Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: as an a hole an as hole [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: and the kind of guy that willgo and tell you like it as kind
[Polish Peter]: of a thing now if you reallydig down deep that’s not the person who
[Polish Peter]: really is he wants to protect [Nick McGowan]: m [Polish Peter]: protect his family protect himself his wifehe wants to he is a big kind
[Polish Peter]: of a really good good guy whenyou start working you know in that regard
[Polish Peter]: that real true self all of asudden that person starts to emerge and starts
[Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: to go and take different actions [Nick McGowan]: yeah [Polish Peter]: and now life starts to be alot more fun you know than people i
[Polish Peter]: keep going back to that we’re allwalking
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: stories don’t judge the story don’t judgethe book by the cover because you don’t
[Polish Peter]: know what’s underneath it [Nick McGowan]: ah well thank you for answering thenext question which is going to be what
[Nick McGowan]: sort of advice would you give somebodyon their path towards self mastery but
[Polish Peter]: oh [Nick McGowan]: that sounds like that was it [Polish Peter]: yeah i mean and be you justbe open to being open with yourself i
[Polish Peter]: mean and the other aspect is oneof my goals that i have with all
[Polish Peter]: my students is getting to the pointwhere you can the lack of a better
[Polish Peter]: word love yourself ere’s lot [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: of us think about the conversation that’sgoing on in your head that conversation that’s
[Polish Peter]: going on and you can be yourbest friend or you can be your worst
[Polish Peter]: nightmare our biggest [Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: critic or you know kind of biggestbully so my goal is to get you
[Polish Peter]: to have become your best friend kindof a thing your biggest
[Nick McGowan]: oh [Polish Peter]: fan your raving fan because when thatcomes to that point and you love yourself
[Polish Peter]: for the who you want and whoare not and I’m not perfect we’re all
[Polish Peter]: not perfect but we’re perfect in beingimperfect when you get to that
[Nick McGowan]: hm [Polish Peter]: point all of a sudden you havethe freedom to actually take action in life
[Polish Peter]: and doing things so advices you knowstop judging yourself so much and started you
[Polish Peter]: know being more gentle than yourself giveyourself some grace we don’t typically give ourselves
[Polish Peter]: sucgress because the deep down inside workcan be our biggest critics
[Nick McGowan]: m great points man it’s been apleasure to have you on it’s always great
[Nick McGowan]: to chat with you i look forwardto the next time we get to talk
[Nick McGowan]: again too but to share with uswhere people can find you and where they
[Nick McGowan]: can connect with you [Polish Peter]: well first and foremost i appreciate yourhaving me on people can find me on
[Polish Peter]: facebook can find me on instagram justtyping Polish Peter you’re going to find that
[Polish Peter]: instagraan Polish Peter official is handle onfacebookyoucan just up in Polish Peter we find
[Polish Peter]: me under and if you want tohave a conversation with me i have a
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[Polish Peter]: that i typically open if you wantto have a conversation with me like this
[Polish Peter]: free session you know no obligation nothingjust having maybe and help you in some
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[Polish Peter]: want to look for you’re looking toget on jump on a short call and
[Polish Peter]: maybe i can help you in someway
[Nick McGowan]: absolutely man that’s awesome and i highlyencourage that you jump on a phone call
[Nick McGowan]: with him even just fifteen-twenty minuteschat things will open up so again polish
[Nick McGowan]: peter always a pleasure man thank youfor your time